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Does anyone have a source for this rose on its own roots?
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#1 of 3 posted
31 AUG 06
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#2 of 3 posted
2 JUN 07 by
Ehann
Chamblees nursery carries it own root, however they are not shipping until 9/07. You can place your order, though.
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Please do not buy from Chamblee's, the new ownership is defrauding customers. There has been a lot of talk about this on HMF this season.
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It is also available from Roses Unlimited Own Root. All of their roses are own-root. www.rosesunlimitedownroot.com
I have ordered from RU several times. Their roses are huge and hardy. They sell roses in 1 gallon size. I have been very pleased with RU's quality of roses and customer service.
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Does anybody know anything about this rose? Thanks.
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#1 of 5 posted
6 OCT 05 by
Veiti
It is very common here in Europe. It looks beautiful, blooms all season and needs no pruning. Its vigorous growth can be limited by use of the hedge trimmer. She (a rose must be a female!) does not like high temperature though.
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Oh my no, if a rose is named after a man, it is just certainly not going to be a "she".
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It the white sport of Pink Grootendoorst, and has Dianthus (carnation) like petals. The blooms are very double in large clusters. It doesn't form hips like most rugosas. I think it smells great and is a good repeater.
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Interesting! I've had the original sports' parent, F.J. Grootendorst and Pink Grootendorst. I find them to have virtually no scent. There'd be an awfully lot of angry customers if a nursery sold these roses as "strongly scented". (Heehee) Even 'Peace' is more strongly scented to me than any of the Grootendorsts, although I do find Fimbriata (the better fringed rugosa) sweetly scented.
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My Just Joey has one cane with 4 blooms, like a floribunda. Is that common for JJ? Would someting like that be considered a sport? I have a photo if anyone would like to see what I'm talking about. Thanks,Dove
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Dove, please do include a photo.
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This is the pnly cane of the bush with 4 blooms
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That's not 'Just Joey'. I can tell by the foliage alone. JJ has somewhat undulated, feathery, and lightly-pointed foliage.
That may be 'Sunset Celebration' with some off-coloring.
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Any guesses out there ?
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#4 of 10 posted
20 MAY 06 by
Wendy C
That photo doesn't look like any Just Joey I've ever seen. Has this bush always looked like this? The bloom shape and color isn't like JJ. Is it possible this is a mislabled rose?
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Hi, Dove. I know the "definition" of a Hybrid Tea is generally accepted as one bloom per stem, but roses are such a mixed bag of traits. It is VERY common for HTs to bloom in small to large clusters, just as it is for floribundas to provide one flower to the stem. Cluster flowering is pretty common in the several species represented in modern roses. Your cluster of blooms on Just Joey is well within the norm for not only that rose, but just about any other Hybrid Tea you could find for sale. It wouldn't be considered a sport unless the flowers were materially different from the others the plant usually produces, such as fewer or greater number of petals, different color, stripes, mottling, etc.; the growth noticably different as in elongated canes as in the case of a climber, or much more dwarf resembling a mini mutation, etc.; or something like a very fragrant rose regularly producing a scentless one, or vice versa. When the characteristic is one which is common within the range of traits possible, it's not a mutation, just an expression of what the thing CAN do. You may have never seen Just Joey do what it's doing for you at the moment, but it's a common thing to find on it, and most other Hybrid Teas.
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Hi Kim, I have seen my Floribundas produce a single flower and have read that Grandifloras may or may not produce multiple blooms, but wasn't aware that was the case with Hybrid Teas. I can always count on you for informative and educational responses. "...just an expression of what the thing CAN do" So in a nut shell Just Joey is showing off... cool. Dove
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Hi Wendy, More than likely it's my photographic abilities (or lack thereof) that didn't capture the bloom in all it's Just Joey glory. I was trying to get a good view of the multiple stems. Cheers,Dove
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#8 of 10 posted
22 MAY 06 by
Cheryl
Hi Dove, I'd be very surprised if this is 'Just Joey'. I'm with Wendy here. The buds are not right. The blooms are not right. The foliage is not right. The growth pattern is not right. The colour is not right. I've taken hundreds of shots of 'Just Joey' and have many bushes of it. I think that it will turn out to be something else. I have never seen multiple flowers on any stems. The stems on 'Just Joey' would be too weak to carry numbers of such large blooms. Cheryl Moore
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Cactus Joe, This is a beautiful photo, it's be nice to know what zone it's growing in and how many years it took to grow that size. It's nice to get a photo that shows the whole shrub, thanks.
Dove
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