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Which roses give you the longest lasting blooms (on the plant, not necessarily in a vase)?
The best in my SE England garden are:
Dublin Bay, each flower lasts 4 weeks
Parade, 3 weeks
Ginger Syllabub, 2 weeks
Elmshorn, 2 weeks
(I don't seem to notice the bushes as much as the climbers.)
I think longer lasting flowers make for the most color. Blooms that only last a few days usually repeat faster and can be very floriferous (my stand outs are For Yours Eyes Only and Alibaba), but I really prefer longer lasting blooms. I can’t understand why no one talks about this! I would always go for the longest lasting flowers when buying a rose if this info was available, but it is quite hard to find.
Most newer rose varieties only last a few days each. I think in recent decades, rose breeders have concentrated on healthy foliage and fragrance, whereas in the 1950s-70s long lasting blooms seem to have been a higher priority, and most last a week or more. Older roses than that I think vary by family, but I don't have a lot of experience with them.
Thoughts?
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#1 of 4 posted
2 days ago by
 HubertG
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At the moment in winter in Sydney I've noticed my 'Europeana' is giving bloom that doesn't seem to age, lasting for weeks.
I have a pale pink seedling which I bred, 'General Schablikine' x 'Lorraine Lee', which has given winter flowers lasting in good condition for nearly four weeks. It was surprising since neither parent lasts that long, 'General Schablikine' in particular lasting maybe four days at best.
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Thanks for your reply. Interesting that the seedling can differ from the parents in this way. Should I look forward to your new rose coming on the market someday? ;)
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#3 of 4 posted
yesterday by
HubertG
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Christineb, it's just a hobby for me, but if I did ever produce something really worthwhile I wouldn't rule out trying to introduce it.
Regarding long lasting roses, I'd say probably any rose initially bred for the florist industry that has become popular in gardens stands a good chance of lasting longer than average. I bought on impulse 'Our Vanilla' a few weeks ago, and it is supposed to be such a type of rose, and it is described as having papery petals. It's already sending out shoots, so I'll let you know later on how long they last.
I remember reading an old reference that 'Kaiserin Auguste Viktoria' was outstanding in how well it lasted. I tried growing it years ago but rarely got a flower.
'Peter Frankenfeld' is popular in Australia and for me it lasts well on the bush. It does have quite a lot of the early twentieth century American florist roses in its background, which might explain that.
'Camp David' is another one I grow with lasting flowers. I even made a post a couple of years ago about mine lasting two and a half weeks. It's a surprisingly good winter flowerer here too.
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#4 of 4 posted
yesterday by
Lee H.
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From casual observation, my top 4:
Beauty Secret
Stars ‘n’ Stripes
Florentina
O.L. Weeks
The latter is very resistant to fading and bluing, and may also be the most vigorous and floriferous hybrid tea in my garden. Yet I’ve found little about it in the literature.
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Is there an error in the height listed? I believe this is considered a short rose, under 2'.
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#1 of 5 posted
27 JUN 21 by
jedmar
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While European nurseries give the height of 'Blue for You' as 90-100 cm, in Australia it seems to attain 150-200 cm. Who knows why' Different understock, climate?
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English nurseries list the height as 60-90cm, and that is my experience here, so even smaller!
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#3 of 5 posted
28 JUN 21 by
Plazbo
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I assume mostly just the longer growing season. Middle of winter now (and the winter solstice just the other day so days are technically getting more daylight) and many moderns (and china's and polyantha's) like Blue For You are still sending out the occasional flower.
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Blue for You gets to about four feet in San Diego, growing year round.
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#5 of 5 posted
15 NOV 23 by
Clairose
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Yes in Australia mine reached 2.5 mtr high. Very upright strong growth. Does not like heavy pruning.
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Does anyone try to grow roses in serious shade? Not dappled shade or partial shade, but full shade. Not California shade, but further north where the sun is not so strong. My difficult area is against a north fence in SE England. It gets 3-4 hours of morning sun at the peak of summer, but most of the time it is less and quite early, so not strong sun.
I am not interested in once-bloomers or rugosas. The fence is not suitable for climbers, so the ones recommended for a north wall won't work unless they can be grown as a shrub or on an obelisk (which most roses for north walls can not, as they are usually rampant).
So far I have doing well here Jacqueline du Pre, Ness, Joie de Vivre, Blue for You, Mutabilis, and Bonica. These are all nice bushy plants with plenty of flowers.
Elmshorn grows but only has leaves and flowers near the top of the fence, so I don't count it a success. This has put me off trying other hybrid musks.
Abraham Darby and Iceberg manage a few flowers but not enough, and they are very sparse, leggy plants, so I am going to move them. Rhapsody in Blue and Chandos Beauty were similar when I tried them. These roses are all recommended for shade, but they do not cope well with this amount of shade
Aloha and Eden look promising, but they are only in their first year, so can't say yet.
Before you tell me it is foolish to attempt roses in this location, I do also have more sensible shade plants against this fence like hydrangeas and anemones, but there's nothing like roses for constant color (plus scent if you are lucky). And I am struggling to find any more space for roses in the sunnier parts of my garden.
I'd love to hear if anyone has had success with roses in this kind of shady location.
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I have seen this rose sometimes described as shade tolerant. In my experience (in SE England) it does not like a full day of bright, dappled shade, but can manage if it gets a few hours of good direct sun-- I think you'd want 4 hours near midday for decent performance. If too shady, it does not form a bushy shrub, but a leggy octopus that needs support, but it does still produce some beautiful flowers (just not as many as one would like).
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