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Hello again George, I thought you might be interested to know that Girija has sent us seed from her Rosa gigantea too. We have planted out twelve young plants - that should cover a few hundred square metres! ;-)
At Monserrate we are planting as many gigantea crosses as we can find. We have a growing number from Viru and also old ones from Alistair Clark - but some are proving difficult to establish in the field as young plants. At the moment Montecito and Bella Blanca are the stars - two Californians.
I am keen to know what you are breeding.
Gerald
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17 APR 11 by
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Hi Gerald, Thanks for sharing. Persica interest me some.....no definite rose breeding strategy at the moment, too new at the breeding side of things.
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No persicas I'm afraid. Our gigantea seed was sown naturally, germinating in the spring after passing though our mild winter in seed trays left outside.
Gerald
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16 APR 11 by
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Hi Gerald. That is a fantastic species cross!
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Yes George it is isn't it. Aparently it originated at the Hanbury Gardens and was found by a chance discovery. It is growing vigorously and without any pest or disease problems. At Monserrate we are principally interested in large growing trouble free roses - I think this will be a winner.
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17 APR 11 by
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All the best with this fab rose!
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This is an old rose bush - one of the few that have survived from the former Rose Garden at Monserrate. Last year I thought it might be Debutante - but now I'm not so sure ....
Gerald
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Thank you Patricia - your suggestion certainly looks convincing. I shall take more detailed photos to compare with those on file for Laure Davoust.
Gerald
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This plant appears to be Cl Maman Cochet and not Chromatella. See the member's comment section where there is a discussion about Beales' clone of Chromatella.
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Thanks jannorcal - yes I am aware of this controversy. It appears that the Beale's clone marketed as 'Cloth of Gold' is not what it seems. Interestingly though there is an old plant at Monserrate that is identical with the Beale's clone. 'Cloth of Gold' is one of the few roses for which we have documented evidence of cultivation. The rose in the photograph was photographed at Miguel Albuquerque's Rosarium at Quinta do Arco - Madeira. I have yet to ask him if it was obtained from Peter Beales as seems likely.
Gerald
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