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20 MAR 15 by
moriah
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If you have one on it's own root, you only need one as the roots spread and shoots come up near by.
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Wow that's good, as I love this cultivar, and just bought one on own roots!
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#3 of 13 posted
10 JUN 23 by
Jay-Jay
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It suckers a lot, maybe more than You would like it to do.
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Ok... I'll see if I love this rose enough ahahah
Anyway, this is another very Gallica-like trait. This plant is really like a strongly reblooming Gallica hybrid. Pretty unique in the entire rose world, I think.
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Update: my own roots Rose de Resht is doing unbelievably well, despite being still in a 6 l container. She's suckering and blooming like there's no tomorrow, developing in a thick mass of fragrant foliage and developing flower buds (she had already given a fair number of blooms before).
I'm keeping all my new roses well watered and fertilized, and I added some mycorrhizal supplement too.
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Hi Jay-Jay. Just came across these comments in relation to Rose de Rescht. We have one here going into it's third season, own root, and I've just noticed there are five small new shoots about 20cm tall growing about 20-30cm from the plant. All are covered in leaflets. Are you saying these would be defined as suckers as for me they are new shoots from the root of the cultivar? I plan to carefully dig them out and plant them around the garden. One of our favourite roses here, flowers almost continually from late May until December. Cheers
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#13 of 13 posted
yesterday by
Jay-Jay
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Do You have photo's?
At my place, at first the suckers appeared at that distance too, later on at 50cm.
It doesn't go berserk as for suckering.
I would suggest let them grow this season and dig them up in Fall. Than plant them at new places...
Or dig them up now, prune off 1/3 and pot them. Plant in Fall or Spring next year.
Good luck, Bonne Chance!
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#6 of 13 posted
24 JAN 24 by
odinthor
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'Rose de Rescht' seems to have been confused in commerce with 'Rose du Roi'. I have had a very healthy own-root 'Rose de Rescht' for decades, and never once has it produced a sucker or runner. This was discussed in another (now-gone) forum of knowledgable old rose experts years ago, and the consensus was that there is a large contingent of supposed 'Rose de Rescht' out there which are actually 'Rose du Roi' specimens, as a large group of people had the "runner version," and an equally large group had the "never any runners version." Unfortunately, none of the posters had both, so a point by point comparison of them was never posted.
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#7 of 13 posted
24 JAN 24 by
Jay-Jay
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Which of the photographed or pictured Roses du Roi do You mean?
Almost none look like the picture Jonathan Windham posted.
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#8 of 13 posted
24 JAN 24 by
odinthor
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My point is in relation to comments on suckers or runners vis-a-vis 'Rose du Rescht' and 'Rose du Roi', not any of the HMF pictures of 'Rose du Roi'.
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#9 of 13 posted
24 JAN 24 by
Jay-Jay
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I'm not talking about pictures odinthor.
I'm referring to which of those roses de-pictured as Rose du Roi would You like to compare with those depictured as Rose de Rescht as for the habit of suckering?
What withholds You from comparing Yourselves? I would be interested in Your outcome.
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I'm told that "Rose de Rescht" in commerce in Australia is now consistently what we think is Joasine Hanet. Which suckers.
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#11 of 13 posted
25 JAN 24 by
Nastarana
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'Joasine Hanet', AKA "Portland from Glendora" in the USA is a tall rosebush. Mine grows to about 5' and I think it gets even taller in warmer climates. I believe 'Rose de Resht' remains at around 3-4'.
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I haven't read through every thread, but I am wondering if anyone knows about whether Lullaby typically produces masses of hips in the fall? I usually prune mine down to size at some point in late summer after major flushes of bloom seem over. I did not have a chance to do that this year and have the most beautiful hips! I will post a photo.
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It's hip sterile. The only way to get anything from it is to pick out 1-5 grains of pollen per bloom and put it on something ridiculously fertile.
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It appears in the pix here to be prone to vegetative centers. I suppose that must affect fertility?
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Yes, as well as the scant amount of pollen it even possesses. I would rate it as a 98% sterile rose. 2% male fertility imo.
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At what point did the Koster line develop ball-shaped blooms? There are no photos of some between D. Koster and the original rose of this lineage. The ball-shape is definitely unique.
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#1 of 5 posted
9 days ago by
jedmar
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I have also seen a similar change in an (alleged) sport. Some years ago, I bought a body bag of 'Royal America', sport of 'America'. I was at the time also growing the sport parent. RA showed growth and habit identical to 'America', but the cream colored flowers opened in a kind of globular, cup shape, not at all like the flatter 'America'.
RA is no longer in commerce, which is a pity, because I found it an excellent pillar type rose. I think the sport may have been found by a wholesale company, which propagated and sold it for as long as the patent lasted.
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I grew Margo Koster and Mother's Day when roses were new to me as a teenager. If they didn't powdery mildew so bad, I'd consider one again. They ARE cute, and the little ball blooms are funny to look at in a good way. I think my MK was virused because then no one cared about cleaning up root stock, although maybe virus free are out there now.
I saw a pure gold sport of Chris Evert at Washington Park for years, but could not ask for cuttings as it was still in commerce. Its gone now though :(
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As a joke, I once dipped the cut end of a spray of Sneprincesse (the white sport in this line) in blue dye to dye the white blooms light blue and showed it at our County Fair in the “unregistered/unknown” class under the name Blue Balls. The local retail nursery then had a stream of people come in and ask to buy it.
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That's absolutely amazing.
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In my second year owning this rose. It's finally blooming in great big bunches of flat, open white flowers with golden stamens and I love it. The flowers last 2-3 days. I don't really detect a strong fragrance.
This rose is very vigorous and as it's blooming, is throwing out 2 more thick new canes. It got damaged in the last hurricane to hit the Tampa area, but in the first year I'd say it grew about 6 feet.
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Why is this rose thought to be a hybrid Arvensis? I ask because if it has Ayrshire genetics, it possibly could be hardy to zone 5. Are we thinking e.g., R. arvensis x a tea rose? I don't see it being grown in the gardens column colder than 6b.
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