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Nastarana 
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I haven't read through every thread, but I am wondering if anyone knows about whether Lullaby typically produces masses of hips in the fall? I usually prune mine down to size at some point in late summer after major flushes of bloom seem over. I did not have a chance to do that this year and have the most beautiful hips! I will post a photo.
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It's hip sterile. The only way to get anything from it is to pick out 1-5 grains of pollen per bloom and put it on something ridiculously fertile.
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It appears in the pix here to be prone to vegetative centers. I suppose that must affect fertility?
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Yes, as well as the scant amount of pollen it even possesses. I would rate it as a 98% sterile rose. 2% male fertility imo.
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At what point did the Koster line develop ball-shaped blooms? There are no photos of some between D. Koster and the original rose of this lineage. The ball-shape is definitely unique.
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7 days ago by
jedmar
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I have also seen a similar change in an (alleged) sport. Some years ago, I bought a body bag of 'Royal America', sport of 'America'. I was at the time also growing the sport parent. RA showed growth and habit identical to 'America', but the cream colored flowers opened in a kind of globular, cup shape, not at all like the flatter 'America'.
RA is no longer in commerce, which is a pity, because I found it an excellent pillar type rose. I think the sport may have been found by a wholesale company, which propagated and sold it for as long as the patent lasted.
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I grew Margo Koster and Mother's Day when roses were new to me as a teenager. If they didn't powdery mildew so bad, I'd consider one again. They ARE cute, and the little ball blooms are funny to look at in a good way. I think my MK was virused because then no one cared about cleaning up root stock, although maybe virus free are out there now.
I saw a pure gold sport of Chris Evert at Washington Park for years, but could not ask for cuttings as it was still in commerce. Its gone now though :(
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As a joke, I once dipped the cut end of a spray of Sneprincesse (the white sport in this line) in blue dye to dye the white blooms light blue and showed it at our County Fair in the “unregistered/unknown” class under the name Blue Balls. The local retail nursery then had a stream of people come in and ask to buy it.
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That's absolutely amazing.
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In my second year owning this rose. It's finally blooming in great big bunches of flat, open white flowers with golden stamens and I love it. The flowers last 2-3 days. I don't really detect a strong fragrance.
This rose is very vigorous and as it's blooming, is throwing out 2 more thick new canes. It got damaged in the last hurricane to hit the Tampa area, but in the first year I'd say it grew about 6 feet.
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Why is this rose thought to be a hybrid Arvensis? I ask because if it has Ayrshire genetics, it possibly could be hardy to zone 5. Are we thinking e.g., R. arvensis x a tea rose? I don't see it being grown in the gardens column colder than 6b.
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12 days ago by
gjb
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Will this rose grow in USA Zone 5?
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12 days ago by
jedmar
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Zone 5 is too cold.
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11 days ago by
Nastarana
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The choices for ramblers in the cold zones are somewhat limited. I have had good success with the Ayrshire group. Those do indeed ramble, everywhere if you let them. The blooms are white and pretty, but lack the lavishness of the Barbier roses. I think Roses Unlimited has one or two, some years. The Damask, Celsiana, should probably be thought of as a rambler. It throws out 15' canes. Then there is Lilian Gibson, which is huge, and will shade out anything growing beneath it.
I gather Dorothy Perkins and sports can be grown in 5. I have not attempted them. Among modern, repeat blooming ramblers, I have Alba Meidiland, IMHO one of the finest of modern introductions. It is hardy for me, but remains bushy.
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There is also Polestar and Above and Beyond. Applejack can become a rambler here, but I don't know further north.
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