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6 AUG 12 by
nbate
The advanced search option doesn't really work. I am searching for any purple rose with a strong citrus fragrance. The first rose that came up on the 39 page list had a strong clover fragrance. I have been having this problem a lot. Any suggestions?
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The ADVANCED SEARCH on HMF does not select fragrance for a rose by the fragrance notes that are often used in the descriptions, but only in the strength of the fragrance give by the breeder at the time of registration, or when they patent the rose.
To narrow your search, since you are a premium-member of HMF, you can add a few other plant characteristics. For example, you might want to add "class" to your search criteria. You could also add "introduced after, let's say, 1950 and that would narrow the search by setting a time period.
It takes a bit of practice to learn how to narrow a search, but once you get into it, I find it's kind of fun.
Smiles, Lyn
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nbate,
Just a progress report. We've been able to replicate the issue you reported. It's always very helpful when someone provides a precise example. On the surface it appears the fragrance type (ie citrus) is being ignored. The Advanced Search is quite complex software so it may take a little time to sort out the problem, hopefully not. We'll let you know when we have it corrected.
HMF Support
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#3 of 5 posted
8 AUG 12 by
monimoni
nancy, yesterday, u sent me a private message about Sweetness rose, i cannot respond because you have your peferences settings at not receiving private messages, so this is the only way i can contact you, if you want your questions answered you must change your settings and PM me back and i will be happy to answer.
monica
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My favorite, Shocking Blue. Intense sweet citrus fragrance!
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SB is very hard to find these days. The last business I ordered it from sent 'Deep Purple'. I considered getting SB from Roses Unlimited, but without a photo to show its the real one, I wasn't willing to shell out the bucks. Sadly, its just become one of those roses mislabeled with others.
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Anyone have a picture ? Trying to compare it to High Stepper. I do not own either.
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Andrew..........
A few years before Mr. Moore died, several of us worked hard to return the roses that he had bred and had lost the mother plant to Sequoia Nursery to create a living archive of all of the roses he had created. 'Orange Cascade' was one of the roses that has remained on the "Lost Roses" list. There were over 100 cultivars returned to Sequoia, but some were never found again.
When you consider that Mr.Moore had been introducing roses for over 70 years, it's understandable that we couldn't get them all, but we sure tried.
Smiles, Lyn
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Lyn, I could never be a part of the rose search. At the time, it was next to impossible to get his roses from California to Florida. It was only when Nor East closed,and they pulled out all the stops as I like to say, that I was able to buy 210 of his varieties. I would have bought more (all) but many were sold out very fast. I am always trying to fill in the "blanks" as much as I can. I should be growing a dizzying array of Teas, instead of always replacing the minis I have. Thankfully, I have finally gotten good at grafting, and my misting system has been a godsend. I am guilty myself of not being diligent enough posting pictures for other rosarians. Hopefully that will change this year.
I appreciate the reply as always! Regards, Andrew
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Andrew........
You probably never knew about the "Lost Rose" search. It was a challenge and a wonderful experience. I had people send cuttings directly to Sequoia to be propagated and Mr. Moore was able to confirm the identity of the rose. I have found six more since he died and some photos of roses on the list have been posted to HMF as growing in a rose garden in Hungary.
Here's a link to the list of the Lost Roses that was published several years ago. Some of them have been found, but the majority are still "lost".
http://www.venturarose.org/article-missing-moore.htm
The mother plants were lost during floods in the Sacramento Valley and due to employee errors or many other kinds of things.
Any photos you can contribute of any of these lost roses will be treasures.
Smiles, Lyn
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#4 of 4 posted
14 SEP by
Johno
The link to the missing roses of Ralph Moore is broken. I am wondering if you could upload the list to HMF Publication resources. Thanks.
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Is the seed parent of 'Bonica' a rose called 'Swany' (see: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.2462&tab=1 ). They have identical parentages.
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Simon..........
The seed parent could be 'Swany' or it could be a sister seedling to Swany' with the same cross.
Smiles, Lyn
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Yes... I guess so :-)
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More likely Swany than Alba Meidiland. Meilland seems to use their own named cultivars, listed as seedlings for their records. Alba Meidiland is absent of sexual parts -- at least in this area.
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Swany is triploid, and diploid Alba Meidiland has more offspring listed, so it seems more probable to me Alba M. might be the seed parent, assuming disclosed parentages are accurate.
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If it is, they had very tiny fingers and a lot of luck. Its possible, but difficult and requires the dang thing to not act sterile.
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I purchased four fragrant roses from Jackson&Perkins about 8 years or so ago. The roses were sold together, and one was French Perfume, which I loved, two were English Roses and the last one was a dark pink almost fuchia colored rose that was beautiful and smelled terrific. I don't know what this rose was called. I no longer have these roses since I moved, but I was wondering if anyone can recommend a gorgeous dark pink rose that smells wonderful--that can carry a scent when you walk past it and also that can fill a room with it's wonderful scent when it is cut.
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The McCartney Rose is not a dark pink but a medium mauve pink and it has one of the strongest scents of the hybrid teas. It has also won many medals for it's fragrance.
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Mine were very prone to rust, zone 10b, southern California. Loved the blooms--perfection. Finally shovel pruned my two McCartney roses as I couldn't beat the rust.
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#2 of 4 posted
11 APR 05 by
Unregistered Guest
I particulary like the Double Delight Rose. It is two toned, dark pink to white but it has a beautiful fragrance. I bring them to the office to sit on my desk for everyone to enjoy....
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Tracy......
Here's an opportunity for you to use the Advanced Search feature on HelpMeFind.
1. Click on Roses on the main menu to the left 2. Click on Advanced Search at the top of the page 3. Click on the word Class 4. Click the radio button at the top of the page on the right for and 5. Click the box for hybrid tea and drop down to the bottom of the page 6. Click Continue 7. Click on Bloom 8. Click the radio button at the top of the page on the right for and 9. Click on deep pink in the color section 10. Drop down to the Frangrance section and click on strong and drop down to the bottom of the page 11. Click Continue 12. Click on Search
and a long list of deep pink, fragrant hybrid tea roses will appear.
Have fun searching for your rose.
Smiles,
Lyn helpmefind.com
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