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RoseSchlick-rv most recent 27 SEP 14 SHOW ALL

Initial post 22 JAN 11 by HMF supporting member

Kim Rupert

Reply #1 of 2 posted 28 MAR 11 by Arno

Reply #2 of 2 posted 27 SEP 14 by styrax

Is it still alive?	REPLY

RoseSouvenir de Philémon Cochet most recent 9 JAN 13 SHOW ALL

Initial post 26 MAY 04 by Anonymous-61241

Reply #1 of 2 posted 3 APR 10 by Arno

I think its the same problem with all full blooms, - open pollinations will not work here. But if you pollinate it, it should set hips very well. I'll try this year. :-)	REPLY

Reply #2 of 2 posted 9 JAN 13 by HMF supporting member

Jay-Jay

Did You manage to get this rose pollinated and having good hips/seeds? Or do You already have seedlings?	REPLY

RoseRosa persica Michx. ex Juss. most recent 3 NOV 12 SHOW ALL

Initial post 23 MAY 07 by HMF supporting member

Robert Neil Rippetoe

Reply #1 of 5 posted 23 MAY 07 by Arno

Thank you for your kind comment, the seeds are from a friend of mine, who had been my fellow student in biology for years.
He comes from an area not too far away from Taschkent and after we talked about that specimen, he said he would bring me some seeds to germany, if he visits his family - and if he finds a plant.
He did! - And not only for one season, for several, so I could grow them up by trying & reading lots of infos, the two articles from Jack Harkness included.
Thats - in short - the story.
I will bring further fotos if possible.

Reply #2 of 5 posted 23 MAY 07 by HMF supporting member

Robert Neil Rippetoe

Wonderful! I look forward to learning more about this one. I am working with a repeat blooming descendant now. There are relatively few roses adapted to desert climates. It seems this one holds potential for drought tolerance. Thank you	REPLY

Reply #3 of 5 posted 27 MAR 08 by PDL

Reply #4 of 5 posted 28 MAR 08 by Arno

Hi Paul! :-)

Yes some Hybrids of Warner (going to be released) Moore (Seqouoia Nursery in California, but they CLOSE end of April 2008, you have to hurry!) are twice blooming or even recurrent blooming. Jim Sproul is also breeding recurrent flowering hulthemia roses and writes about his crossings in the Rose Hybridizers Association Forum.
For example here (where I also write sometimes).

http://www.rosehybridizers.org/forum/message.php?topid=9419&rc=143&ui=1808397568

And perhaps in a few years my own hybrids will be recurrent blooming.
But my main way is to cross seasonal flowering roses into original hulthemia material to get healthy plants from the beginnig.
OK, - of course I also will try some little crosses with F2 to F4 or F5 Hulthemia / Rosa Persica Hybrids, this year.
But - as I look for real challenge - not too much. :-)

I think you should call Moore's Sequoia Nursery, if you live in the states. And ask Jim Sproul, perhaps he can give you material too.

Here is a copy pasting of all helpmefind listings of hulthemia hybrids:

F1

Berberifolia hardii
Euphrates
Hardii
Hulthemia hardii
Hulthemosa hardii
Nigel Hawthorne
Rosa hardii
Rosa x H. hardii Rowley
Rosa x hardii
The Hardy Rose
Tigris
Xerxes

F2

Persian Autumn
Persian Flame
Persian Light ™
Persian Sunset ™
Roses are Red
TG2698 (RNRS Trial Ground No.)
Vox Humana

F7

LCxSL X I89-2

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Good luck & have a good rose season!
Arno

Reply #5 of 5 posted 3 NOV 12 by Warren Millington

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RoseAS-07/04-01 most recent 28 OCT 12 SHOW ALL

Initial post 23 AUG 10 by Arno

OK As I can't edit the description table for that rose (don't know why), I'll post some infos here, as its really important to know more on that crossing.

Its my own crossing from May 2007 where a few dozen seedlings derived with one, presented here, that already flowered this year in May 2010.

There is a thread for this crossing / breeding line on the RHA Forum site:

http://www.rosehybridizers.org/forum/message.php?topid=30065

The flower is of a salmon colouring with a small orange base at the petals!
The reverse of the petals is more of light pink, the upper side more of light yellow ... .

For me it was interesting to see, that the yellow colour of Golden Chersonese is not completely inherited in the descendents.
I supposed this, as there seem to be different (at least two) traits of yellow, - one light yellow and one deep yellow.
Sometimes they are mixed - as in Golden Chersonese, I supposed (see also answer to Robert below its the thematic of the maternal inheritance of traits in some few examples that might play a role here ... .)

The deep yellow trait seems to be inherited only via maternal pathways ... if one takes deep yellow influenced roses as mother plants, - and not as pollen parents like here (so for deep yellows its like a chromoplast inheritance, not a classic mendelian inheritance).

It will be also interesting to see how the plant further develops, still its a pretty dense bush (only once flowering in spring).
Its not blackspot resistant, but mildew resistant. ...

Reply #1 of 1 posted 28 OCT 12 by Simon Voorwinde

Arno, Did this one set hips for you? I'd love to see some updated whole-plant photos of it if you have any.	REPLY