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27 APR 07 by
Anonymous-797
I live in the Seattle area and I started a rose garden 2 summers ago. I want the most disease resistant roses I can find, so I won't have to spray. Last summer I planted Sunsprite, About Face, Intrigue, Lady of Guadalupe, Elle, Scentimental, Honey Perfume, Rainbow Sorbet, Double Knock Out and Pink Knock Out, and so far they are all very healthy and haven't got even a tiny bit of blackspot or anything on them. I have never sprayed them either and do not intend to spray this summer. I also have Marmalade Skies, Sixteen Candles and Salsa which all have a bit of blackspot, but not too bad. Does anyone know of other very disease resistant roses for the Seattle area which are fragrant and will bloom all summer?
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Well I am not sure of your zone or conditions, but I recommend Distant Drums, Lady of the Mist, Quietness. Tropical Fragrance, Ingrid and Glowing Amber. And new for me Golden Buddha is also turning out Disease resitant and fragrant. Another new one that fits what you are looking for is Jeri Jennings. Check the HMF search fr this and the Buy from tab should tell where these can be obtained from. Good Luck
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#2 of 7 posted
28 APR 07 by
PHYLLIS
I'm very impressed with Fabulous, It's a floribunda, I think...Put out by Jackson and Perkins. The only thing is, it is getting taller and taller and I've trimmed it very short this year. I was so impressed with it, that I now have two. The blooms are white and pale yellow. From a distance you are mostly seeing white. I also love all my David Austin Roses. But I'm still wishing for a 'Morning Has Broken' rosebush put out by Heirloom roses. My problem with getting one from them, is that they come in a very small 6 inch plant and we are going on a trip in June...also we have an over population of deer out here in Granbury,Texas...I have to rely on my "Scarecrow" water system to keep them away. This has been the only thing that has worked for us so far, and I have 70 rosebushes so far......Phyllis
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#3 of 7 posted
28 APR 07 by
Anonymous-797
I live in Lynnwood, WA. I have an own root tuscan sun (floribunda) in a container for about a year. It is very disease resistant, no black spot or mildew. It survived this past winter storm. It shows healthy growth.
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#4 of 7 posted
29 APR 07 by
Darcytoo
Hi! I live in Central Florida, which is quite a diff climate than Seattle. I am using almost all Fortunianata rootstock from Nelson's and J & P, which does well in FL. All of the roses mentioned below can be purchased locally in your area, I imagine. Have planted over 28 roses this spring, and already had two HT own root roses that came with the house--Fragrant Cloud and Sterling Silver--hubby ran over this one w/his lawnmower, and it came back! Both have gorgeious smelly blooms, but are prone to blackspot. Take my advice with a grain of salt, b/c these are new plantings, but so far, I love these roses--vy little probs, and few issues w/black spot after I told my husband not to water right before dark. I have most of these roses on soaker hoses, as well. I agree, Tuscan Sun is a beaut. I've had it planted for almost two mos, and it thrives--multicolored blooms of yellow/orange/pink that change color as the blooms age, very bushy, loads of new growth, blooms from the botton, and nice, mild spicy scent. Also, have had really good luck with Shocking Blue--it's a deep lilac purple Floribunda, Celebrity, a huge flowered yellow HT with edges of petals trimmed in pink on young blooms, and Madame Isaac Pere, a deep pink Bourbon and bushy profuse bloomer. (All three of these smell WONDERFUL.) Also, I love Burgundy Iceberg, a vigorous deep purple Floribunda with a light rasberry scent. Love & Peace, a pink and yellow HT is gorgeious, very disease resitant, but only has a vy mild scent. If you like climbers, I brought Golden Showers back from an ugly looking plant I bought at 1/2 price--milder licorice smell, but beautiful yellow blooms, glossy leaves and very vigorous. Good luck--I'm new here, and this site has been great.
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#5 of 7 posted
29 APR 07 by
Anonymous-797
Thank you so much everyone for responding back. I'm going to check out suggestions made by all of you. We dug up half our front lawn 2 summers ago and made it into a rose garden. I have a black-gated arbor at the entrance to it and a small waterfall to the back with a statue of the Blessed Mother over it. I can't believe how much work it has taken to put this rose garden in. My Seattle dirt was solid clay and my husband couldn't hardly get a pick or shovel through it. So he spent the end of summer '05 and all last summer '06 digging up all the clay dirt, hauling it off in buckets and then bringing in good dirt. My rose garden is a rectangle with 6 foot wide beds all around for 30 roses. He also put in a soaker hose and hooked it up to our sprinkler system. This year we thought it would be easy because all the digging was done but actually finding the right roses has been harder than I thought. I would rather put some extra thought to the roses now though, instead of having to stress out over them after they are planted because of disease.
Phyl, how do you keep the deer from eating your roses? My sister lives in Woodinville, WA and she has lots of deer. She's quite the gardener but decided to give up on roses this year because the deer keep eating them up. And as far as buying the "Morning has Broken" rose....I just bought "Velvet Fragrance" from Heirloom, it is tiny but I'm going to plant it in a pot and let it get bigger before I put it in the rose garden. Maybe you could do that too and put it somewhere the deer can't get to it. Then when you get back from your trip in June you can plant it out in your garden. I did that last year with "Antique", a climbing rose from Heirloom and since it was so little in my garden I put a tomato cage around it to protect it. The Heirloom roses do grow fast though, so you won't have to wait long for it to grow bigger.
Again, thanks everyone, I'm new here too and it's great to be able share tips.
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#6 of 7 posted
30 APR 07 by
PHYLLIS
Hello...Your garden sounds great! We are basically doing the same thing..taking out the old dirt and bringing in the good dirt. In reply to your question about the deer...I bought the "Scarecrow", that was on the internet..You should be able to click on the word, scarecrow and bring it up...The scarecrow is plastic and looks like a black bird. It has a battery inside and is heat sensored. It's hooked up to the waterhose. Therefore, when anything comes within a certain distance..it squirts out water and then stops...it that something doesn't leave, it squirts them again with water. So far this has worked...and it shoots water out approximately 30 feet, depending on the size of the scarecrow. It revolves from one side to the other. Some do farther, but I didn't want to invest too much in something that I wasn't sure about....and another thing....the grandkids just love this...they enjoy watching it squirt their granddad..
I have really tuned into what is disease resistant and what isn't..I know that Dolly Parton is my worst rosebush for blackspot, but she has the most beautiful roses of all...That's the only reason I've put up with her all these years...A great one to buy is called Honey Perfume....The only problem with this one, is beetles....If there is a beetle a mile away, this rosebush attracts it....It's yellow, which they seem to love and it's very perfumed like honey....But ooooh how pretty it is...So tell your sister about the scarecrow. Maybe I will get 'Morning has Broken" afterall...Thanks, Phyllis
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#7 of 7 posted
18 MAY 07 by
Unregistered Guest
Hi, I live in the Seattle area and I suggest rosa rugosa roses. They are the easiest of all of my roses. I do not spray or fertilize. They are blooming now, producing many "starters", will bloom all summer and blackspot resistant. They will grow and spread forming a hedge in almost any soil including sand. I have pink but there is also an alba rosa rugosa. They are very fragrant. They are not a good cutting rose but if you want easy go with this rugosa or any of the other rugosas. You might check out The Uncommon Rose. I just recieved in April a Linda Campbell (red) and a Green Ice from them and both are already blooming with no care. I have picked up many small rugosas at Church sales area so you might look there too for inexpensive roses. Good Luck with your roses. Jody
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I have a problem with beetles on my yellow rosebushes. I have taken these beetles into several authorities that know about bugs and no one knows what they are. They are not Japanese beetles, but they look more like the Hawaiian beetle....I've even sent the beetles to Baldo Villegas, Botanical Gardens, and also the colleges, but no one has ever seen them before.... The beetles are beige with brown on the top...they look like they have a mask on their face...I've tried looking up all the beetles and they don't match any of them....they are like none other that I've seen before....and they only attack the yellow roses or my Honey Perfume roses.....they don't get on the white roses or the other colors....Does anyone know what they could be? Let me know.....Phyl/Phyllis
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Phyl.......
Has Baldo gotten back to you and asked you to send a critter to him for examination ? When I lived in San Diego, his response was fairly quick. I took a quick look at his "bug page" (You'll find a link under Useful Links on the navigation bar to the left.) I was wondering if you should be research weevils instead of beetles.
I have Rose Curculios in my garden, but they don't seem to be attacted to any specific color group of roses ... dang. But it did say that there were subspecies to the rose weevil. It might tbe possible that you dealing with one of the members of a subgroup. You might have more success researching weevils rather that beetles.
Needless to say, next to deer, the rose weevils make me just about want to scream and resort to all kinds of drastic measures to make them disappear. But you ARE on the right path. Learning about what you are dealing with is the first step of solving the problem.
I wish you the best of luck.
Smiles, Lyn
PS... my weevils seem to be color blind. They wil go after anything.
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#2 of 5 posted
11 MAY 07 by
PHYLLIS
Lyn, I sent the bugs to Baldo last year, but never heard back...He was on a tour I think...I wrote to him again last night and am waiting to hear...
I didn't look under weevils, but I will...The bugs are the size of a beetle and only go to the yellow ones...Thanks for your reply...I will check into it.....Phyl
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Baldo's job requires that he travel quite a bit. He's always been very good at getting back to people. Don't give up on him.
Smiles, Lyn
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Second idea...... have you taken the bugs to your local agricultural department ? Baldo travels the state to work with various county offices. They might have the answer for you because they are local to your area.
Smiles, Lyn
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#5 of 5 posted
12 MAY 07 by
PHYLLIS
Yes, I did that last year and they sent them to Texas A&M. They didn't know what they are, either. No one has ever seen them before. The botanical garden had some on their Julia Child rose and I told them that they were on their's. They had a look and said they didn't know what they were....Also, Home Depot had some on their yellow roses and they'd never seen them before. So all I know to do is pick them off and put them in soapy water....they fly..Will let you know what Baldo says....Thanks, Phyl
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I planted Neptune in the spring and I was very happy with it - the flowers are simply to die for. Gorgeous lavender, sweet fragrance, and it seems to be a tough little plant. Can't wait to see how it does next year (hoping to get it through a CT winter!). Linda
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#1 of 7 posted
23 MAY 06 by
Anonymous-797
I have one planted in my yard here in Washington state, it can take a freeze outside in a protected area, only problem so far for me is deer eat all of the leaves on mine, and I have it two years, only one bud on it so far this year, which has yet to open.
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#2 of 7 posted
31 DEC 06 by
Unregistered Guest
It will probably due okay if you have it in kind of a protected area as mine here in the state of Washington has survived the last two winters outside, where we have ours is on our porch on the south side of our house and pretty close to the house and only problem we have had with ours over the last two winters is that the deer come and eat it's leaves and we have had insect problem with it in the fall but not that much dammage done to it so far this winter if at all.
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#3 of 7 posted
27 APR 07 by
PHYLLIS
I just bought a Neptune today and was wondering how it is now rated..Can you let me know? Thanks, Phyllis
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Mine came through the winter fine and is leafing up nicely. Fingers crossed for a great summer of flowers!
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#5 of 7 posted
27 APR 07 by
PHYLLIS
Thanks so much for your reply. This gives me hope for a great rose. Did anyone find the Morning has broken rosebush? I know that Heirloom has it stock, but I was wondering if there are others that might have it...Let me know....Phyl
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Heirloom is the only place I've seen that has Morning Has Broken - I don't have this rose myself, but I've seen it in a friend's garden and the color is lovely. Linda
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#7 of 7 posted
5 MAY 07 by
PHYLLIS
We've recently gotten high winds and lots of rain, here in Granbury,Tx. I haven't done a lot with my roses in a few days. We may have thunderstorms again today. It's been drizzling rain,. but the roses love this cooler weather. I'm hesitant to get the Morning Has Broken rose bush for now...Our vacation starts, June 4th.Thanks for responding...Also about the Neptune rose...Phyllis
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I was wondering what to do with all the rose petals that have fallen off....Do I need to clean all the petals up? If so, is there a suggestion on an easier way to do it instead of the usual stooping and bending that I am doing? Let me know....Thanks, Phyllis
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3 MAY 07 by
Cass
How much cleanup you must do will depend on how wet and rainy conditions are. Unless it rains and the petals become gummy or moldy, you won't need to clean them up. They will blow away or decompose. But If they are really piling up and are unsightly because they are showing mold, then definitely rake them and dispose of them off your property. Moldy blooms can harbor botrytis, a petal blight. My favorite lazy cleanup technique is to rake them onto the lawn the day the mow & blow guys come. Then it's all chopped up with the grass and goes into the compost.
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#2 of 3 posted
4 MAY 07 by
PHYLLIS
Thank you for responding. I wish I could do that, but we have the cedar mulch in our rosebeds. Our beds are very large with approximately 48 rosebushes in one and I several in the other beds. And we've recently had thunderstorms with high winds and heavy rain....The petals are everywhere.. Any more suggestions? I have 70 rosebushes, with many people stopping to have a look...Any more suggestions? Thanks again, Phyllis (Phyl)
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#3 of 3 posted
4 MAY 07 by
Cass
I have chopped cedar (actually fir) bark too. If the petals are really thick, they sort of congeal, and you actually can scoop them up. I know of no other method. You'll lose a bit of bark each time, but cleanup is important.
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