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Emma's Whims

- BOR050-21
Bred by Valentina Bordini (Italy, before 2021).

Modern shrub.

Pink, striped yellow. Light fragrance. Semi-double flower, about 5 cm. diameter.

Medium, semi-glossy, light green foliage. Thorny.

Blooms in flushes throughout the season.

Height: 180 cm (about 70").

Can be used for beds and borders, cut flowers or garden.
Patent status unknown (to HelpMeFind).

Hanabi x Mrs. Oakley Fisher

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Paint it Black

Though Paint it Black is very reminiscent of Black Baccara, they are not synonymous. Paint it Black is its very own cultivar bred by Kordes Rosen as a part of the "Blütenbeet Kollektion".
Labels show the following information: "Paint it Black® Beetrose, Züchter: Kordes Rosen, Blütenbeet Kollektion".
One big difference is that Paint it Black does indeed have a scent, whereas Black Baccara is not fragrant.

Paint it Black is being retailed by Heinje Baumschulen. They write: "Rose Paint It Black: This plant is protected by plant variety rights. Propagation and commercial cultivation are prohibited!"
This makes me think they may posses some core information about the cultivar.
https://heinje.de/en/brands/besondere-rosen/

Promesse de Fleurs has a very detailed, informative and picturesque description of the rose:
https://www.promessedefleurs.com/rosiers/rosiers-par-variete/rosiers-the-grandes-fleurs/rosier-a-grandes-fleurs-paint-it-black.html

Kordes Rosen (W.Kordes' Söhne Rosenschulen GmbH Co KG) has per January 2024 published a Trademark Protection overview of their rose varieties that have been registered for plant variety protection or have received plant variety protection, either as national applications or in the EU. The Paint it Black cultivar is a part of this list.
https://www.rosen.de/download/Markenschutz_Kordes_Januar-2024.pdf?srsltid=AfmBOorp9leXZCuqTiduKyticQItc4-Nhy_F5qHX6o-lEhsAb9njdjyV

(I tried posting this as a comment to Black Baccara instead, as Paint it Black is listed as a synonym, and I can see it has been reported as missing omission previously, but still does not have its own listing - but for some reason I cannot submit my comment)

The description page says this is "a Hybrid Gigantea" but I can't see anything in the references here to support that. Is there some other reference to Gigantea blood not included? I can see similarities with 'Hadley' and 'Princeps' in 'Editor Stewart', so I'm wondering is it's one of Clark's favoured seed parents pollinated with 'Princeps'.
The fact that it was recommended as a hedge suggests it must have had a degree of retention of its foliage in winter. So perhaps there is Gigantea in it after all.
Also, to anyone who has experience of 'Editor Stewart', does it produce hips?

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Myveta

From actual label:
Rosa (TH) 'Myveta Rose'
Grootbloemige roos, Rosier Buisson à Grande Fleur, Edelbuschrose, Hybrid Tea Rose
Place in full sun to half-shade
Height 60-80 cm
Flowering time VI-X (May to October)
Pruning III/10 cm

From Kleine Plak (nursery by Albert Ramakers) - Biologische tuin-rozen:
Myveta
Grootbloemig
Geel met roze randen
60-80 cm
Bloeitijd VI-X

https://kleineplak.weebly.com/?fbclid=PAQ0xDSwKZIqBleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABpyX7s_ysaL_qRuRLnvCllVTb5QmsmjZVobIluospt0yYSMsIbDcvWyheanBh_aem_jgp-wVuac6AK-kXuKH8EkA

Erik Coenders Kwekerijen is distributing Myveta as Grootbloemig as well.
https://erikcoenderskwekerijen.nl/foto-assortiment/grootbloemig

There seems to be some confusion among retailers about what rose type Myveta is, who, more often than not, is selling Myveta as a floribunda instead of a Hybrid Tea, grandiflora.

Bakker.com writes:
"Large-flowered rose Rosa 'Myveta'® Pink-Orange - Bare rooted - Hardy plant
Large, full flowers
The rose 'Myveta' (Rosa Floribunda) has large, full flowers. This rose is known for its flowers that bloom for months. It really stands out in your garden thanks to the beautiful colour of the roses and the size of the flowers. [...]
Extra: Our large-flowering roses are commonly known as hybrid-tea roses with large, lightly fragrant flowers. The double flowers are in beautiful shades. These rose bushes are very strong and healthy and flower in abundance."
So, though they contradict themselves a bit, they are at least descriptive.
https://en-gb.bakker.com/products/large-flowered-rose-rosa-myveta-pink-orange-bare-rooted-hardy-plant

Blomsterlandet.se, another retailer of Myveta:
"Rosor > Klaseblommande rosor > Floribundaros 'Myveta', Rosa (Floribunda-Gruppen)
Rabattros som blommar under lång tid med stora, fyllda rosa blommor
Rabattros med upprätt växtsätt. Bladverket är grönt och svagt glänsande. Blommar med stora, fyllda rosa blommor. Kontinuerlig blomning från slutet av juni till tidig höst. Blir fin i grupper, i buskage eller som solitär. Fin som snittblomma.
Skötselråd
Läge:
Sol till halvskugga
Odlingszon: 1 - 3"
https://www.blomsterlandet.se/tips-rad/vaxtinformation/utomhus/rosor/klaseblommande-rosor/floribundaros-myveta/
They state that Myveta will thrive in the Swedish hardiness zones 1-3 (note that this is not USDA). They describe big full blooms, upright growth and green, slightly glossy leaves. Myveta blooms continuously and Blomsterlandet.se recommend planting it in groups or as hedge, bur says it is beautiful as a solitary plant as well.

piontorpet.se describes Myveta's colour coral-pink and fragrance as a "true rose scent, like how you'd expect a rose to smell":
"Sommarlivet och sommarlovet avrundas med en blommande rodnande solnedgång. Som en vacker augustikväll, skimrar den vackra rosen 'Myveta' i rosa-korall toner. Galet vacker och doftar sådär ROS som rosor förväntas dofta, men inte alltid gör."
https://www.instagram.com/share/p/BAdWnphak5

DirectPlants points out that Myveta is suited for planting in pots and describes the spread/width of the plant to be approximately 80 cm.
"Myveta floribunda rose bush
Beautiful and very large pink blooms make this rose a natural centrepiece and perfect for growing in a pot. It will flower throughout summer and will do well in either full sun or semi-shade. Very bushy with a spread of around 80cm this is a really attractive rose."
https://directplants.co.uk/blog/best-roses-to-grow-in-a-pot/

TheJoyOfPlants.co.uk blog post/article mentioning how they've used Myveta in a rose wall setting:
"ROSE WALL
Need more greenery and a touch of romance, and have an old wall suitable for placing a green climber against? Then a rose wall is the perfect way to green up your garden, balcony or patio. Added bonus: the velvety rose petals bring colour and fragrance to your garden! In our example, we used climbing roses like the Paul's Scarlet Climber (red) and Myveta (pink)."
https://www.thejoyofplants.co.uk/how-add-green-unexpected-places
TheJoyOfPlants.co.uk is an initiative from the Flowercouncil of Holland.

Myveta has been seen to be mistaken for Chicago Peace, possibly due to the colours and shape of the bloom. To the best of my knowledge Chicago Peace and Myveta are not a match, though.

My own observations:
Has thorns, enough that you'll get scratched when handling, but not completely covered in spears. "Baby-thorns" or prickles are pink, soft, slender and slightly downward curving. Old/grown thorns are greyish beige long, thin, hard and slightly downward curving at the very tip.
Leaves consist of 5 leaflets, fresh to dark green, serrate and often with a cobbery edge on young leaves.
Buds are typically a solid coral pink to hot pink colour. As the blooms open they reveal a more peach/apricot/orange or sometimes yellow centre/petal base.
Stems likes to "stretch" and supports themselves quite well when reaching horizontally. I suspect it could be trained as a low climber.

I hope at least some of this can be of use.