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Available from - Wild Rose Nursery
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From Gardeners' Chronicle, vol. 14, 1893, p. 312:
In Mr. Charles F. Verdier, whose death on the 18th of August is announced, the Rose world and French horticulture lose a distinguished and ardent Rose-grower. Associated in early years with his father, Mr. Victor Verdier, in the old garden just opposite the scene of Rosa Bonheur's picture of "The Horse Fair," in Paris, he has died ripe in years and honours. Having known him for forty years, I can but speak with respect of his perfect knowledge of Roses, his care and honesty in the discrimination of novelties, and his worth as a friend and colleague. He had seen the growth and consummation of the race of hybrid perpetuals and of the Teas, and had a fifty-years' Rose experience. His health had somewhat failed in the last three years; but when last I saw him he had planted in his new garden one of the most perfect collections of all the Roses, arranged in their several sections, and was, though not so vigorous as a cultivator, as ardent as ever in his enthusiasm and knowledge of his favourite flower. George Paul.
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As far as I can tell, other than the (undescribed) mention by Charles Singer in 1850, it would be a quarter century before any 'Bicolor' or 'Bicolore' by Oger would be mentioned again anywhere. In that era, an undescribed rose listing in a catalog would imply that the cataloguer was expecting delivery of a new or newish rose from its breeder/propagator (with the rose then being described in subsequent listings by the cataloguer from subsequent personal experience with the rose). Reading the tea leaves on this, it appears to me that Charles Singer (of Mannheim, Germany) anticipated a 'Bicolor' HP from Oger (of Caen, France), which then went undelivered for some reason (loss of the parent stock, failure in the propagating house, etc.). Another thing to keep in mind is that Oger could have raised two Bicolor[e]s, one early in his career, one late. It's very strange that even the most exhaustive cataloguers and most thoroughgoing journals apparently make no mention of it between 1850 and into the 1870s. One wonders if Oger's 1852 HP 'Rose et Blanche' was the mysterious 'Bicolor' of 1850.
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 jedmar
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Who knows? Daniel from Normandie also had questions about this rose. We have just added a Bourbon 'Bicolor' from the Pfitzner rose list of 1852. Same as the HP from Oger?
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zlesak
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Available from - high country roses beginning in 2025.
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