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jmile 
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10 OCT 23 by
jmile
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Same as Blue Dress. Should be AKA for each other?
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#1 of 2 posted
10 OCT 23 by
jedmar
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The Japanese text for 'Blue Dress' says that it is distinct from 'Turn Blue'
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#2 of 2 posted
10 OCT by
Usami
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There are a couple other roses the have a very similar look. Besides the aforementioned Turn Blue and Blue Dress, there's Grawn Blue and Blue Gravity.
I believe I'm possibly missing another one. I assume that at least one of them must be a synonym of another, cause I do see the topic pull up now and then, but there is indeed a lot of confusion on which would be a synonym of which.
I've noticed for years that Grawn Blue does not have an hmf page. I've been aware of these varieties which are just now creeping up in the West's knowledgesphere for a good while.
I could see 'Grawn Blue' being a deformation of 'Gown Blue', meaning of course blue gown aka blue dress. I also remember reading a Facebook poster commenting that 2 in this group were synonyms, but cannot for the life of me find the evidence to say which and which lmao.
Grawn apparently is an actual word, which means cereal, grain, or maize. Perhaps the actual intention of the name is something like 'cornflower blue', if it is a separate variety indeed. Do you happen to know anything about it?
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Wow. The form on this one is really cool.
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I hope someone brings this one to the US soon! Wow is right :)
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#2 of 4 posted
1 OCT by
jmile
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It is in the US. I purchased this rose last year in the US. It was one of the few roses that did well in a pot during last year's extremely hot summer. Apparently loves heat.
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May I ask where you purchased it? Does it have a different name in the US?
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#4 of 4 posted
1 OCT by
jmile
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It has the same name here in the Us. I purchased it from a small nursery on Etsy named RoseFlowerWorld. It is one of the few potted roses that survived the heat.
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The references refer to 'Bienvenue' as a shub, floribunda and climber. Were there two - 'Bienvenue' and 'Bienvenue Cl' - or is the rose variable in its height?
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Great climber for espalier as well as very nice bush.
Mine has been planted several years ago in open field. Had no care whatsoever and it has survived and grown as a nice bush with great flowers!
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#2 of 2 posted
1 OCT by
jmile
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Mine survived last year's and this year's hundred degree weather in a pot. Very hardy in hot weather with very little humidity.
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This rose didn't even last long enough to bloom in my garden. I've replaced it with "Sweet Pea", which is very new, but seems more vigorous already.
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My Aunt Margy's came as a small plant which I'm growing up in a pot, using organic fertilizers. It is about 1 ft x 1 ft and always has about 5 buds and / or open very fragrant blossoms. It even bloomed during our chilly rainy Winter with no disease. I live in the San Francisco area. It seems easier to grow up than some other polyanthas.
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Thanks for the info. I keep that in mind for my next Burlington roses order.
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Does anyone know if Aunt Margy's Rose is heat tolerant?
Rodger
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#5 of 8 posted
17 JAN 19 by
jmile
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It certainly is heat tolerant. We live in zone 9B and have many days over 100 degrees in the Summer. It always has flowers on it in the Spring thru Fall seasons.
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#8 of 8 posted
10 JUL by
myd
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Yes it is. 100+ heatwave with intense humidity and it is disease free and has many buds and blooms
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#3 of 8 posted
26 AUG 18 by
jmile
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This rose is doing great in my garden. Always has flowers even in our hot summers in zone 9B.
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