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'WEKjutono' rose Reviews & Comments
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ugh – i'm so frustrated. i loved the orange blossoms on vavoom, but this rose is getting the shovel. it is consistently deformed with teeny-tiny leaves with lots of disease. last summer it never got taller than about 18" tall, and almost no roses... i don't remember the vavoom being like this when we bought it (in pasadena). but now that we dug it up and moved it up the coast (and only a couple of miles from the ocean), it's never done well – maybe the move was too traumatic? but all the others (mostly english roses) have done fine. we'll have to find something else to replace it, but it's hard to find that orange. oh, well. (sad face...)
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#1 of 2 posted
16 APR 18 by
HubertG
Maybe consider Lady Emma Hamilton although it's not quite the same orange. I haven't grown it, but it looks very nice.
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Harold McMillan might work. Its an easier to grow, typical floribunda.
I prefer 'Caribbean'. It doesn't go quite into the "hot" colors, but the fade doesn't have garish red in it like most of the orange roses do. Also, its a consistent bloomer over the summer, where many large-flowered roses are not once it heats up.
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29 OCT 12 by
goncmg
Just got the Edminds catalog and just noticed this one at long last although I think it has been discussed to me as I do love ORANGE and Gingersnap, sick and sad, remains an interest of mine. John M, Missouri is close enough to Ohio that your review will probably result in me buying this one....commenting here because the Edmunds catalog has the near-disclaimer "Excels once established" or something to that effect which generally = "good luck getting it to grow"............the ol' "rewards good cultivation" deal............
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"loves visits to the plant ICU" lol
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#2 of 9 posted
1 MAR 16 by
goncmg
I didn't ever take it on and I won't.
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Friends grew it here, and, of course, the various park systems.
It's a disappointing rose.
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#4 of 9 posted
2 MAR 16 by
goncmg
That is all I have ever heard about this one. May as well stay with 'Gingersnap' if one loves the color in a plagued and difficult plant as at least 'Gingersnap' seems to have the ability to pass on some good color traits to offspring whereas 'Vavoom' is known to set seeds readily but nobody seems to have any luck with any off-spring...........not to mention GS is 30 years older and therefore some short-comings more understandable if not more forgivable.....
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St. Patrick and New Year typically have offspring that pass on their soft wood and general distaste for most climates, with some exceptions. Both as grandparents is not the best idea.
In my personal opinion, and I love orange roses, Vavoom isn't that interesting. Small clusters, somewhat formless blooms.
Yeah, the old ones do it better, even with their own issues.
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I think mine has gotten worse the longer it's been around. It blackspots pretty bad, but it is just such an amazing color. If I ever jump off the bridge and start tempting to hybridize my own stuff, this is one I'd like to try to work the color into other, better, roses. But, outside of the blackspot, I just hate how it grows. It's not bushy...it just heads off in one direction, throws out a cluster, then heads in the totally opposite direction. It's a very ugly plant.
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I still have Marina. It's as easy rose. It has issue, but nothing glaring, and it has orange juice color. Except if it gets over 105 degrees, but by then, who cares? I don't even want to be outside!
Louise Hays has near orange juice color, but on the apricot side of things.
All A Twitter is another neon orange.
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#8 of 9 posted
8 APR 18 by
goncmg
Again, LOVE your way with commentary! Take a look at Gingersnap...............
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Gingersnap doesn't grow well at all here. A common theme of Delbard and some other Mediterranean-bred roses in the PNW.
One of its kids is okay here tho -- Denver's Dream.
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Lets sum this one up in one sentence: Gorgeous color with tons of blackspot (even when sprayed enough to glow) on an awkwardly growing plant.
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After I purchased Vavoom I read the comments on here and thought, "Oh no, what have I done?" However, it has performed better than I was expecting...so far. It certainly isn't as vigorous as others in my garden, but it will grow and rebloom. I honestly haven't had a single cluster of flowers yet, they've all been singles. That's a bit disappointing considering the color is outrageous and would look fantastic in bunches. I've gotten more compliments and comments on the color of this rose than any other in my garden. I also haven't had any issue with diseases so far. It's stayed clean while a couple of other bushes have had some issues.
It isn't an award winner or anything earth-shattering, but it's been a decent little rose bush that can be appreciated for its eye-searing color.
August 2016 Update: I feel like the odd man out here, but I have nothing but positive things to say about Vavoom. It blooms and blooms and blooms, often shooting out new growth before the old blooms have dropped their petals. It had the slightest touch of blackspot, probably because it's planted to the blackspot ball that is Purple Tiger, but it responded to spraying and didn't have any issues again. The flowers do get a little crispy in the Texas heat, but most roses don't even try to bloom in the heat so you have to give Vavoom props for trying. It does have a bit of a spreading habit moreso than most of the other roses I grow, so when planting that should be accounted for. It needs a little more room than most. However, if I had the room I'd have 3 or 4 of these and I can't say that about most of the roses I grow.
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