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Belle Cuivrée  rose photo courtesy of member jedmar
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most recent 21 AUG 11 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 20 AUG 11 by Kim Rupert
Jedmar, thanks so much for sharing photos of these wonderful old museum pieces we have never seen here on this side of the ocean! Very much appreciated. Thank you, also, for providing the photos of the entire plants. Few realize the older HTs grew so spindly compared to post Peace breeding lines. It's very educational and I, for one, appreciate it tremendously. It's fine to be bowled over by the "pretty face", but often when you see what the plant under it looks like, how it performs, the pretty face looses much of its attraction. Thank you! Kim
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 21 AUG 11 by Landperson
And also an opportunity to point out that "spindly" growth isn't a negative for everyone. I am particularly fond of roses whose structural form I can see. I am not fond of big blobs of greenery even when they are covered with blooms. I like seeing through a rose to what is planted behind it; I like bare knees. This growth habit is often scorned, but I find it more interesting.
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Reply #3 of 2 posted 21 AUG 11 by Kim Rupert
That is fine and totally valid for the individual. I found, at least with me and quite a few whom I have observed learning and growing with their roses that this type of growth eventually becomes less satisfying. When you have a garden full of them, it quickly becomes rather "dated" looking. As with anything, too much of one thing can easily become boring. Having the fuller bushes lends a more lush look. I have found them more pleasing because they appear healthier and happier than the spindly types. In a more severe climate, the spindly are far more easily damaged by the loss of a few of their leaves because they simply don't grow as many, and in my climate, they tend to be much more susceptible to foliage problems because of their inherant abilities to ward off infection. They do have a place and they are part of the learning process of where we've been and how we got where we are. Both totally necessary to see where we might go in the future. I've loved them all, but the fuller types are easier to maintain as they are more able to fend for themselves here. Kim
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