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Discussion id : 78-873
most recent 10 JUN 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 10 JUN 14 by timdufelmeier
this what mine looks like, purchased in LA in the 90s.
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Discussion id : 27-023
most recent 4 JUN 08 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 3 JUN 08 by Unregistered Guest
I purcahsed a rose around 1995 that looks like your picture from an antique rose dealer, Limberlost Roses (now defunct), in LA, with the K of K tag, Do you know what it is? Mine is like a HP climber with a strong frangrance that appreciates pegging.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 3 JUN 08 by Unregistered Guest
Wish I knew, its a nice plant. The only original photo I've seen of K of K is the McFarland ilustration. I do have a tiny plant that was sold by Ashdowne as K of K that they got from a Georgia dealer I believe. Still waiting for a bloom
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 3 JUN 08 by Kim Rupert
Regarding K of K... Limberlost Roses was begun by Bob Edberg, an old friend of mine, and now a neighbor and friend of Paul Zimmerman, owner and operator of Ashdown Roses. The K of K you mention was, I believe, imported by Mike Lowe of Lowe's Own Root Roses in Nashua, NH. Bob obtained it from Mike. Ashdown was to be the nursery outlet for Lowe's more cold tender roses and eventually take over the nursery end of Mike's passion for roses. Much of the older, more cold hardy initial offerings Ashdown began with originated from Lowe's Own Root Roses. There is a VERY good probability both of you have the SAME rose as K of K, and that both of them came from Mike Lowe through Ashdown and Limberlost.

I managed Limberlost for a year or so when Bob sold it to Amit Reichtman who also owned Greenview Landscape. I helped Paul get Ashdown up and running with stock from my old collection of unusual roses. Prior to managing Limberlost, for years, I worked local to it and spent many lunch hours visiting with Bob in his eclectic collection of roses. At times, it was a magical place, full of unusual roses and often even more unusual characters! Imagine walking in with lunch and being greeted by Roddy McDowell or Julie Newmar! There were sure to be surprises every time I went for lunch.

K of K is very much an HP in growth and performance. It's usually listed as a single HT, though it has more than the five or six petals I personally associate with "single". It is taller and rangier than what I think of as Hybrid Tea like. You have to remember that classification of a rose is most often the judgement of the breeder/introducer. In 1916, its year of introduction, HPs were well on their way out. HTs were the coming vogue. All it requires to be considered a Hybrid Tea is for one parent to be a Tea or Hybrid Tea. Either could be the case, as there is no listed parentage for the rose. I considered K of K for my own single HT garden, but didn't care for the rangey aspect of the plant. Here in the Los Angeles area, it resembled Dr. Huey in growth and appearance of the plant to my eye, so I decided to grow Vesuvius instead as it is a much better behaved plant, much more in keeping with what I consider "Hybrid Tea" growth and shape.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 4 JUN 08 by timdufelmeier
I like my K of K , it has about five 8 ft canes that semi peg themselves as they poke out from the branches of a 7ft hibiscus tree. Very fragrant ( Mr Lincolnesque) semi-double blooms that are much bigger and lighter red than Dr Huey repeat well if I keep the deadheading and watering up.
Thanks for the info.
Where's Ashdown? I thought Limberlost closed. I used to go there quite a bit with friends, learning and buying tons of antiques etc from Bob.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 4 JUN 08 by Kim Rupert
Your description of K of K fits what I observed when deciding what to include in my single HT bed. Vesuvius is bushier and fit what I wanted better, though it doesn't have the fragrance K of K has. Ashdown is by mail order and can be located here on this site under the "nurseries" tab. Limberlost did close some years ago. Thanks. Kim
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