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'Never Been Redder' rose Reviews & Comments
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Based on the code, pollen parent is Oh My!, which I think is best red Florrie out there now.
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And plausibly Grand Dame, considering the codename, form, and slightly larger bloom size.
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I think Milano Kolorscape is the best red flori out there, but it never picked up steam. After a few years, it will produce sprays like Lavaglut, but without the blackspot and insane prickles. Roughly the same size plant and similar trusses of blooms. Its dark red but not black-red. It takes about 3 years until it produces those consistently.
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Except the know nothings at Kordes registered Milano as a shrub, not a florrie. So that means it competes with a whole separate set. Does it bloom enough? I tend to see only two good bloom cycles per year on my Kordes group, versus four or more with Weeks and Star good varieties. I suspect Kordes prioritizes disease resistance over bloomiferousness. I would rather have the blooms.
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Yikes. Listed flori online, but I no longer own those ars combined manuals. That's so sad. It has the exact same architecture as Princess of Wales.
Yikes, found it... www.modernroses.org/details.php?cultivar=2039
Depressing.
Milano is an everbloomer. It's not one of their giants. It is healthy, but should not be in the Kolorscape group. It's just a little flori guy.
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13 SEP 23 by
 AGBTG
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Has great long lasting raspberry fragrance, very good full form when first opens and after a very rainy summer, very little blackspot.
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Ooh! Thanks for the info. I was thinking I wouldn’t want this one since the website said just mild fragrance.
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24 AUG by
AGBTG
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After seeing your photo and reading the J&P description, I'm not sure if the rose I had wasn't mislabeled. The rose I had while full, looked more hybrid tea though not high centered with velvety dark red petals. Sadly after a mild winter(only down to 0F) it started to grow and then quit. I'll have to try again and see what I get.
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Darn! You are brave to try again!
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From the Jackson & Perkins website:
Zone: 5-9
Bloom Start to End: Late Spring - Mid Fall
Height: 4 ft
Width: 3 ft
Bloom Size: 3 in - 4 in
Petal Count: 100
Rebloom: Repeat Bloomer
Bloom Color: Red
Flower Shape: Double Old-Fashioned
Foliage Color: Glossy, Medium Green
Fragrance: Slight Tea Rose
Uses: Bed, Border, Landscape, Outdoor, Container, Cut Flowers
Upright Habit, almost black buds
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