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"Faded Pink Monthly" rose Reviews & Comments
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I do not grow this rose, but this is what I have learned from Connie Hilker, Old Dominion Heritage Roses Group:
"According to Doug Seidel, the name given to this rose by Mrs. Keays was “Faded Pink Monthly”. It was renamed in commerce to “Mrs. Keays Pink”. Doug also says that it isn’t a Noisette. It’s very, VERY similar to Marie Pavie, and he theorizes that it’s a Marie Pavie variation that Mrs. Keays found."
Jeri Jennings
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Looks very much like the Vintage Gardens version of Marie Pavie to me.
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Very interesting Robert. I'm going to read the whole study Mrs. Keays did on the rose -- we just keep learnin'. :-) Jeri
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Having recently indexed a few copies of the American Rose Annual, "Faded Pink Monthly" was a familiar name to me. It was an easy matter to find the references and quickly type them up and load them on to HelpMefind. (I have probably put the 2001 reference in a slightly wrong file but perhaps one of the American volunteers can transfer it.)
Interestingly, Natalee Kuser and I found a 5 or 6 feet high rose in a Western Australian town of Yornup. We both thought it might be 'Marie Pavie' but we were puzzled at how high it grew. I have put this rose in the back of a bed where it has grown probably a metre high here. At the front of the bed I have put a 'Marie Pavie' cutting (from Donna Broun) and this plant has grown about half a metre. Apart from the height, both roses seem identical.
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Very interesting Patricia, thank you! Now, wouldn't it be interesting if Marie Pavie turned out to be the dwarf sport of this rose, just as White Pet is the dwarf sport of Félicité Perpétue? It could explain a lot!
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Very interesting.
And consider -- Though "Faded Pink Monthly" claims an Antebellum history in the U.S. South -- we don't GENUINELY know that the verbal history was correct..
Sort of a Muddle, isn't it?
I'd really love to see the rose, where it is in commerce, offered as "Faded Pink Monthly," to avoid confusion. But it does seem that its history is not simplistic.
What fun!
Jeri
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