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'Miss Kennedy' rose Reviews & Comments
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After absenting myself for some years from engaging in this field and happening today to come across some of the documents I used half a decade ago to research early Lombard roses - in particular Casoretti's - I came across a photocopy of G.A. Mezzotti's "L'I.R. Parco presso Monza" (1833).
HMF readers might be interested to know that this essay was dedicated to "Miss Giuditta Kennedy". Presumably Mezzotti was referring to Miss Judith Kennedy, to whom we assume Casoretti dedicated the rose 'La bella Judith' (elsewhere 'La bella Giuditta').
Is this the Casoretti link? Your references list the rose but don't in themselves point to a Casoretti connection. The question I would ask is: if 'Kennedy' or 'Miss Kennedy' is a Casoretti rose, why did he dedicate two to the same person (unless, of course, 'La bella Judith' and 'Miss Kennedy' are the same rose).
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12 JAN 23 by
 jedmar
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'La Belle Judith' is mentioned as a hybrid and 'Miss Kennedy' as a noisette, but info is scarce. I believe it is possible that two roses are dedicated to the same person: Miss Kennedy would e.g. for a young lady, and La Bella Giuditta once the acquaintance has been deepened, ob by the wish of an admirer.
The dedication by Mezzotti ofhis book to Miss Giuditta Kennedy is interesting. She could well be Judith of Casoretti. The dedication indicates she was someone well-known in the Milano-Monza area.
Unfortunately, Kennedy is not a rare surname. With a quick search I found several mentions of a British Lieutenant Kennedy visiting Milano in those years (1826, 1832), coming from Corfu, where apparently several Kennedys were stationed. No Judith Kennedy came up, though.
The visitor was mentioned in the "Gazetta Privilegia di Milano" of February 27, 1832. If there was a practice of mentioning foreign visitors in newspapers, then Judith Kennedy may come up in an earlier issue.
Also possible is a different origin for the name 'La belle Judith'. Noisette lists in his 1826 catalogue a tulip of that name. Voltaire wrote about "belle Judith", which was the Judith in Judith and Holofernes. A French ship captured by the British in 1747 was named "La Belle Judith",....
Please check also if the works of Scottish author Miss (Grace) Kennedy (1782-1825) appeared in Italian translation. German and French translations in the period exist.
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Double checking here.
Should the breeder of 'Miss Kennedy', 'La Belle Judith', and 'Rose Nora' be Clare or Casoretti?
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Another Casoretti rose? Both wards of "Lord Compton" (in reality Lord Townshend) who lived a Blevio, Como, until 1846 (dying in Pegli, Genova in 1855) used the name Kennedy. All three had roses named after them: Townshend's was called 'Compton', his ward Judith's was called 'la belle Judith' and his other ward Nora is celebrated by the rose 'Rose Nora' introduced by Vibert. Presumably the 'Miss Kennedy rose' is one of the latter.
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Thank you andrewandsally, We've changed the breeder for 'Rose Nora' and 'Miss Kennedy' to Casoretti.
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