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Discussion id : 84-702
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Initial post 4 MAY 15 by Give me caffeine
It turns out that this rose is most likely the 'Jean-Pierre Ferland' that Montreal Botanic Garden recommended as being exceptionally resistant to disease.

A while back I emailed them, mentioned that I had been unable to find any mention of 'Jean-Pierre Ferland' anywhere online apart from their site, and asked if they knew of any other names it had been sold under. I also suggested any known synonyms should be added to their website to save confusion. They have made the requested changes to their listing, and now list it as 'Jean-Pierre Ferland' (syn.'Mellow Yellow').

http://espacepourlavie.ca/en/recommended-cultivars

Since the famous disease-resistance recommendations were made back in 1998, and the data were taken on well-established plants, it is clear that the rose they were referring to cannot be the 2000 Tom Carruth rose, nor can it be the 2001 Cocker. Unless they have the synonym entirely wrong, which seems unlikely, the only rose on HMF that fits is this pre-1969 rose.

This also implies that if HMF wants nice pictures of this rose anyone in Montreal should be able to get them, since it should be merrily flowering away in their local Botanic Garden.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 5 MAY 15 by Patricia Routley
Jean Pierre Ferland is a synonym of Mellow Yellow ™ (hybrid tea, Carruth 2000). Refer that rose's references. Often a rose is bred many years before the Registration date.

In the Patent for WEKosomit (the Carruth 2000 rose), filed October 25, 2001 it says: “The following description is of 3 to 4 year-old plants of the new variety grown outdoors in Upland, Calif.” 3 to 4 years back from 2001 brings us to 1997 or 1998 when the disease resistance recommendations were made.

ps – I love your inquiring mind.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 5 MAY 15 by Give me caffeine
Well that's odd, because way back when I emailed them I had searched for 'Jean-Pierre Ferland' and couldn't find a mention of it anywhere. Now when I search for it I get several hits on the first page.

Ok, it was a good yarn anyway.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 5 MAY 15 by Patricia Routley
Not odd at all. Your comments had me searching and I found it and have only just added it.
That's the beauty of HelpMeFind. Members continually researching, contributing, and refining the facts.
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Discussion id : 84-707
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Initial post 5 MAY 15 by Give me caffeine
Ok, last one.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0007153682801198

This is a scientific paper about testing disease resistance on Rosa 'Picadilly'. Presumably it was chosen because it was known to be resistant to disease and they wanted to find out why.

Putting all of this together, it's pretty clear that a sport of a cultivar that is known for exceptional resistance to disease would naturally inherit that resistance. Therefore, I think we can safely say that this 'Mellow Yellow' is the rose recommended by Montreal.

It also seems to be a good idea to open a listing for 'Picadilly'.

Edit: Speaking of which, it turns out that Thomas for Roses have a 'Picadilly' listed on page 12 of their catalogue. The description reads "Piccadilly - Soft striped Scarlet with Gold, med" which is a fairly close match to the picture on the Chilean nursery's website. Can't be sure it's the same rose, but may be worth checking out.

If you ask nicely and give them a plug, that Chilean nursery might even let HMF use their pictures of 'Picadilly'. ;)
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 5 MAY 15 by Patricia Routley
Never stop. Your comments are always interesting!
Picadilly is a mis-spelling. See here for 'Piccadilly':
http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=1.11071
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Discussion id : 84-705
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Initial post 5 MAY 15 by Give me caffeine
More info. If you translate this page from Chile: http://www.jardinsanfrancisco.cl/index.php/rosapicadilly.html

...you'll see the words "foliage is remarkable for its vigor and its high resistance to pests and diseases".
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Discussion id : 84-703
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Initial post 5 MAY 15 by Give me caffeine
Found some more information. Due to HMF's restrictions on url's in posts (*nudges the adminz*) and due to me not being able to reply to myself, I cannot post the extra links in Discussion id: 84-702. I have had to start another "discussion" for this.

Anyway, Mellow Yellow's parent cultivar 'Picadilly' does not appear to have a listing on HMF. However it still seems to be in commerce in some places.

Run this Russian page through Google Translate: http://www.drevo-spas.ru/kustarniki/roza-pikadilli.html

You'll see the sentence "Highly resistant to powdery mildew and black spot."
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