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"Blackbutt Tea" rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 120-522
most recent 12 MAR 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 12 MAR 20 by Margaret Furness
The hips (green or just starting to colour) I have cut open contained no seeds.
But see subsequent photo by Patricia.
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Discussion id : 107-045
most recent 18 DEC 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 18 DEC 17 by Michael Garhart
Someone needs to explain this name to me lol.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 18 DEC 17 by Give me caffeine
Blackbutt is a native Australian tree, also used as a place name. The name comes from the lower sections of the trunk having dark colouration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalyptus_pilularis
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 18 DEC 17 by Margaret Furness
I'll refrain from posting a photo of a street sign named for another Eucalyptus - Woollybutt Road.
Butt is one of the words which show a difference in dialect between Australia and America.
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Discussion id : 95-559
most recent 25 OCT 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 25 OCT 16 by Margaret Furness
Based on formal assessment Billy and Hillary consider that "Blackbutt Tea" is the same as "Sylvia Hannah's Dark Pink Tea", and John N agrees. There are some similarities to Mrs B R Cant, so it may be related, but it is different.
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Discussion id : 95-107
most recent 29 SEP 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 28 SEP 16 by bonbon
The Blackbutt Tea rose was collected by Darling Downs Heritage Region members, Mal and Shirley Becker. From the town of Blackbutt in Queensland, Australia about one hour's drive north of Toowoomba, largest regional inland city after the National Capital, Canberra. Cutting grown plants have been passed around our members. A plant was given to David Ruston when he visited the region in either 2005 or more likely about 2011 for the National Collection at Renmark. Compared with Mrs B R Cant it is not the same plant. The Beckers grow both.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 28 SEP 16 by Margaret Furness
Lovely rose, I have one cutting-grown from the plant at Ruston's. The Tealadies say it matches "Sylvia Hannah's Dark Pink Tea", collected NSW, which doesn't bring us any closer to its original name.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 28 SEP 16 by Patricia Routley
Excellent information Bonita.
Let's look at the provenance. As far as I can gather
"Sylvia Hannah's Dark Pink Tea" (New South Wales) came from:
Molly Skenner-1; Dallwood family cuttings taken in 1927-2; Sylvia Hannah-3; Esmond Jones-4; Pat Toolan-5; David Ruston-5.

"Blackbutt Tea" (Queensland) came from:
The town of Blackbutt-1; Becker-2; Ruston-3.

So does David have two separate plants? From the 2015 reference I presume that he does.
There are vague statements that "some features are similar" and "it is not the same".
What is needed are specific characteristics of these foundlings compared with 'Mrs. B. R. Cant' and perhaps comparison photographs of the leaf, side-on bud, prickles, wood, etc. etc. etc.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 29 SEP 16 by Margaret Furness
"Sylvia Hannah's" is at C 35 in the Tea bed of the HRIAI Collection at Ruston's, and "Blackbutt Tea", planted several years later, is at B 65. I have only the "Blackbutt Tea" in my own garden. Will seek further info.
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