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'Morning Magic ™' rose Reviews & Comments
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The parentage as listed is incorrect. Here is the correct parentage:
Morning Magic (93-194.1) = (86-37.1 x 86-23.4)
86-37.1 = (Sunbright x 80-11.7)
80-11.7 = (76-44.1 x78-3a)
76-44.1 = (Golden Jubilee [floribunda, Jacobus, 1948] x Applejack)
78-3a = (Faberge x Eddie's Crimson)
86-23.4 = (84-76.3 x 80-38.1)
84-76.3 = (79-25.1 x Spotless Gold)
79-25.1 = (Fairy Moss x First Prize)
80-38.1 = (76-4c open pollinated)
76-4c = (Rosa rugosa 'Alba' x Applejack)
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Thank you Will. We'll get to work on those.
Do any of them have a RADcode? We have a few miscellaneous RADcoded names wandering around the site.
Patricia
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As I have time I will check the site to see what help I can be for the "few miscellaqneous RADcoded names wandering around the site". If you find any let me know. To my knowledge these are the Radcodes associated with Morning Magic.
Morning Magic = 'Radmor'
86-37.1 = 'Radsbs' = "Sunbright Seedling"
86-23.4 = 'Radspot' = "Descended From Spotless Yellow or Gold"
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Will, I have added most but am having a problem entering the parentages of:
84-76.3
86-23.4
80-11.7 and
86-37.1
I haven't even tried to add the newer parentage of 'Morning Magic' (which differs from the patent) at the moment. Well get to it.
Can you please confirm the 'Applejack' was Buck's 1962 shrub, and not McGredy's 1977 mini ?
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'Applejack' is Buck's 1962 shrub rose.
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I will reply further in your breeder's page, rather than in this 'Morning Magic' page.
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Will - I know I had problems when entering the many numbered Sam McGredy seedlngs.
May I try prefacing these numbered codes with RAD to see if that works.
RAD84-76.3
RAD86-23.4
RAD80-11.7 and
RAD86-37.1
The only thing is that in some cases we will end up with two RAD codes as in
RADsbs and RAD86-37.1
RADspot and RAD86-23.4
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Patricia - The patent application uses the completely lettered Rad names. FYI
I have no problem with there being two Rad coded if you don't.
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Admin – the search with the dash now works, but still didn’t allow me to put in a numbered parentage.
Will – Prefacing the numbered codes with RAD worked. Now I can put in the parentages.
However, there are two parentages for ‘Brite Eyes’. We have:
1979. RADtee RAD79-25.1 (Fairy Moss x First Prize)
1984 ‘Brite Eyes’ RADbrite RAD84-76.3 (RADtee RAD79-25.1 x Spotless Gold)
HelpMeFind and the Patent has a parentage for ‘Bright Eyes’ of (RADTEE x Abraham Darby, AUScot).
Which is the correct parentage please?
1986 RADspot RAD86-23.4. (RADbrite RAD84-76.3 x RAD80-381)
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RADtee = "Midge-free Picotee" = 97-33.15
97-33.15 = 95-1016.17 x 91-90.1
95-1016.17 = Morning Magic™ open pollinated
91-90.1 = Knock Out® x 80-38.1
80-38.1 = 76-4a open pollinated
76-4a = Rosa rugosa ‘Alba’ x ‘Applejack’
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For those of you familiar with this rose, how thorny is it? I'm looking for a pink climber to plant next to the arbor around my front gate. Thank you.
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"DESCRIPTION
Botanical/commercial classification: Rosa hybrida/Climbing Rose Plant.
Varietal denomination: cv. Radmor.
SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION
The new variety of Rosa hybrida climbing rose plant of the present invention was created at Greenfield, Wis., U.S.A., by artificial pollination wherein two parents were crossed which previously had been studied in the hope that they would contribute the desired characteristics. The female parent (i.e., the seed parent) was the ‘Radsbs’ variety (non-patented in the United States). The male parent (i.e., the pollen parent) of the new variety was a salmon-colored Rugohybrid of the ‘Radspot’ variety (non-patented in the United States). The ‘Radspot’ variety is a seedling of the ‘Radbrite’ variety (U.S. Plant Pat. No. 17,391). The parentage of the new variety can be summarized as follows:
‘Radsbs’בRadspot’."
-US Patent
So I guess that gives further information on one of the parents.
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It does. Thanks Michael.
As Morning Magic' was patented in 2007, I have given the undated parents, Radsbs and Radspot, a date each of before 2006.
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Awesome. What about the parentage for 'RADspot'?
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I actually looked this one up. It is easy to miss in the local gardens. it is so pale, but very healthy and proper. When I looked closely at it, it reminded me of maybe an updated version of 'Applejack', which made me curious.
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It's interesting that RADspot is a Brite Eyes seedling crossed with a rugosa or rugosa hybrid. That would explain why my F1s of Morning Magic aren't blooming their first season and why MM hips resemble rugosa hips to a great degree.
Update 4/2016: I finally have some Morning Magic F1 that are blooming their first season. I crossed Morning Magic with my Strawberry Cream miniature rose and so far two from that cross are in bud at 3" tall.
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lol good to know. I have stopped using rugosas in breeding. Too much hassle! The good kordesii types are much easier to use, imo.
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I would agree that the kordesii types are easier to use. I'm using Hamburger Phoenix and Royal Edward to name a couple. I'm not ready to give up on rugosa/hybrids yet. There is the leaf type, scent and health that keeps me coming back for more.
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Quadra was the one Henry loved. Have you used it?
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Yes, I picked Quadra up last season so I will be able to use it this coming season. I had it in the past but lost it to RRD. I like the resistance, color and LOVE the bloom form.
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Nice! I have yet to meet it in person. I bought Ilse Krohn Superior once. Do not make my mistake! Mildew for miles, and this is not a mildew-prone climate!
Had Sympathie for years. Gorgeous, but way too big. Its essentially New Dawn in scarlet red. Mostly healthy, but lower blackspot. Nothing to complain about. So we planted it away from people, in a difficult spot, out in the countryside. Thrives just fine, lol. Never stops blooming.
'Quadra' is probably a better balance for a modern garden.
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If you want me to try to root a cutting of Quada for you next season let me know Michael.
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Aw, thanks. I'm good. Mostly interested to see where you go with it! :D
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Available from - Growquest
www.growquest.com
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Thanks for all kysusan. You'd make our morning magic if you suggest to Growquest that they list all their roses on HelpMefind.com
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20 SEP 15 by
kysusan
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Patricia, it appears that Growquest is no longer taking orders. Their website is also down.
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