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'Jacques Cartier' rose Reviews & Comments
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The mops of the roses. No neck and a round face encircled by wrinkles made of petals. Growth just as compact, and stamina of rebloom stunted as its curious tail. Vigour as dependent on feed as the mops on a good veterinarian.
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23 MAR 23 by
 jedmar
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The naming of 'Jacques Cartier' as 'Marchesa Boccella' in USA seems to be based on a very flimsy ground. The following comment from the 1993 "Roses of Yesterday and Today" seems to be the best explanation(!):
"It is best to enter it in a rose show under the name "Marquise Bocella" as you can use the date eligible for Dowager Queen (before 1867). The date given for Jacques Cartier is 1868, not eligible. The name, "Marquise Bocella", has been officially adopted by The American Rose Society."
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Jedmar, do you know, or have you good reason to suspect, that both cultivars still exist, in or out of commerce?
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#2 of 3 posted
23 MAR 23 by
jedmar
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There are reports, both in Europe and in USA, of two versions, one compact and one a large shrub. 'Marquise Boccella' was described in literature as compact and dwarf, while 'Jacques Cartier' as vigorous. However, we will only know when the various clones are tested for DNA.
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#3 of 3 posted
19 OCT 23 by
Bug_girl
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Rogue Valley Roses sells both Jacques Cartier and Marchesa Boccella.
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I really appreciate this article. I learned more about this flower and its story. It's so interesting.
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Hopefully my eye didn't skip over it; but I don't see in References the following 1847 comment from Buist in The Rose Manual (p. 157): "Marquise Boccella, quite a favorite, being a distinct dwarf variety, with pale silvery blush flowers, very double, blooming freely the whole season."
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Now added. Thank you Brent.
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