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'Lord Scarman' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 123-898
most recent 17 NOV 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 14 NOV 20 by thebig-bear
According to "The Ultimate Guide To Roses" (Phillips and Rix), page 37, this rose is a seedling from R. Gallica Officinalis.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 17 NOV 20 by jedmar
Could you please quote the text of the reference? We have added the reference and would appreciate the full text.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 17 NOV 20 by thebig-bear
Certainly - apologies for not doing so before, I wasn't even totally sure if I was doing this right! I'll put the whole entry and you can choose what you want from it.

Roger Phillips and Martyn Rix
The Ultimate Guide to Roses; A comprehensive selection.
Published 2004.
ISBN: 1 4050 4920 0

Page 37.

" 'Lord Scarman'. A very modern Gallica, this is a seedling of R. gallica 'Officinalis' (see p.33) raised in 1996 by John Scarman and named for his father, the renowned English High Court judge. The stems are upright, to 4 ft (1.2m), the flowers loosely semidouble, rather cup-shaped, deep reddish-pink, the petals paler on the back.
Garden Notes. This is shorter than most Gallicas, like a more refined 'Officinalis'. Hardy to -20F (-29C), Zone 5."

Thank you Jedmar!
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 17 NOV 20 by jedmar
Thanky ou, thebig-bear! I wonder though if they were looking at the true 'Lord Scarman'. It's not shorter, it is a tall bush and the blooms are not semi-double, but more than double.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 17 NOV 20 by thebig-bear
I must admit the plant size quoted doesn't appear to match the description of many of the people who own it that are on here - I would say if anything it seems to have decent hybrid vigour. (Having said that, my 'Officinalis' is quite short, so it wouldn't be hard for 'Lord Scarman' to be taller than a Gallica like mine!)

However, I do think it is the correct rose, as the accompanying photo in the book looks very like some of the flowers depicted in photos on HMF.
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Discussion id : 123-925
most recent 17 NOV 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 17 NOV 20 by thebig-bear
I have some details about the parentage of this rose (Lord Scarman) - according to "The Ultimate Guide To Roses" (Phillips and Rix), page 37, this rose is a seedling from R. Gallica Officinalis.

Please could someone add it to the main page? Many thanks.
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Discussion id : 93-923
most recent 10 JUL 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 9 JUL 16 by Wilhelm
I planted this rose out of a lack of good places under a large rosa moyesii bush on the north side of my house and forgot about it. About three years later in June I unexpectedly came across a huge most beautiful flower coming out of the dark. First I thought it was a Dis moi qui je suis, because I could not remember where I planted what rose. But the later has much smaller flowers and slightly less pink and with a deeper purple red. The Lord Scarman has since grown high into the Moyesii bush and up the wall. The flowers are spectacular in size and colour. The back of the petals have a silvery-purple appearance. The scent is not very strong, actually I can only detect the scent very occasionally. It should be the rose for difficult dark corners and walls. The branches are rather weak and it likes something to grow into, may be a trellis as well. It is very vigorous and the foliage healthy with large dark green leaves. The flowers do very well in rain. They do not become brown and mouldy. Later the single petals fall down nicely and leave a clean hip.
Dis moi qui je suis needs much more sunshine and doesn't like strong neighbours. Otherwise it does form a very nice bush with wonderful flowers. Unlike other old roses of that deep crimson purple, the flowers of these two roses do hardly fade or become bluish. Still Lord Scarman is my favourite.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 9 JUL 16 by Patricia Routley
Yes, we do have a page for "Dis moi qui je suis". Try again. It would be most interesting to see comparable photos.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 10 JUL 16 by Wilhelm
Found it. Thanks for help!
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Discussion id : 55-300
most recent 19 JUN 11 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 19 JUN 11 by alligisla
A fantastic, very healthy rose!. After 4 years in my garden it is now a bush of 250 x 250 cm. Lord Scarman is suckering constantly, so I have come up with many own-root plants. It blooms for a extremely long period. It seems to be very ferlile and I have started to experiment in crossing it with a other Roses (as a hobby). Weak or no fragrance.
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