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'Ideal' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 96-417
most recent 17 DEC 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 17 DEC 16 by Patricia Routley
The rose I grow in shade and in view from the house, is Christmas-decoration-red and is always welcome at Christmas time as it adds a festive note. I would like to add it as 'Ideal' to my HelpMeFind list of roses, but because of those stamens in McFarland's illustration, there is some doubt.
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Discussion id : 75-518
most recent 12 DEC 13 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 12 DEC 13 by Patricia Routley
I have added photos of a dark red polyantha.
Cuttings of this rose were posted to me from a Heritage Roses in Australia member, Mrs Mary Wilding of Northam, W.A., in 2002. Her husband, who was 80[ish?] in 2002, remembered it in his family in his early childhood and her family had kept it for decades. Mary had tried to identify it and thought it may be ‘Sparkler’ 1929 from Trevor Griffiths My World of Old Roses Vol 1, page 138 photo. After getting nowhere with my identification, I wrote to Trevor Griffiths enclosing photos and typings and he kindly agreed it that it may well be ‘Sparkler’.

I have sent this rose to Renmark to grow on, but David Ruston has not recognised it.

In view of my ‘Golden Salmon’ sometimes showing the same dark colouring as this rose, and ‘Ideal’ being a parent of ‘Golden Salmon’, I am fairly sure Mary Wilding’s rose is ‘Ideal', 1921. My 'Golden Salmon' is a slightly larger bloom than this 'Ideal'. The blooms of 'Ideal' do burn in heat. I took a cluster of this rose all over the garden trying to find the closest colour match and ‘Mr. Lincoln’ was about the same colour.
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