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'Harry Wheatcroft' rose Reviews & Comments
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I have found that it is best in the early summer or in a more shaded posistion as the flowers of mine are bleached in extreamely hot direct sunlight. Though, if planted in an ideal position, is still a must for any garden.
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I planted Harry Wheatcroft in the spring of 2020 after purchasing it in a 'Gro-Pot' (small plastic pot with dirt, sold at the same time as bagged roses). The label stated 'Caribia'. I looked it up on helpmefind and saw that the original name was Harry Wheatcroft, named after the founder of the house of Wheatcroft and Sons, UK (later transplanted to Australia). That lineage sold me. How could a rose named after the founder of the company be a dud? Well, my Harry is not a dud, rather he is robust, happy and gay, a 'bloomin' fool' type of rose that always makes me smile. He's healthy and prolific growing in a pot, and performs like a champ in my often very hot garden that gets intense high desert sun for much of the year (zone 7B, Albuquerque NM). I understand why the rose was given the US distribution name Caribia, because of the bright, gay, almost tropical colors, but I will always think of this rose as my Harry...
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23 AUG 14 by
 goncmg
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WOW I do not like striped roses. Inherited this one from a friend to whom it had been sold as its "parent," Piccadilly. Own root. Small. Oddly, it is very healthy! Endless rain this summer in Columbus has beaten my spray regimen and many have really fought blackspot. Not this one???? Very happily surprised.
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I produced a seedling last summer, with nearly the exact color as this rose, but its a shrub with disease resistant parents and it doesnt bleach. I keep staring at it. Do I like it? Am I neutral? How do I feel? So I stare at it more. Its like the mind cannot conclude anything from it. Maybe its like Tropicana, where its just aesthetically challenged but the color is attention seeking. I dont know... Im sure I'll stare at it like a fool next summer, too.
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Well, if it's disease resistant it certainly has a leg up on 'Harry Wheatcroft'. Certain rosarians collect stripes. I think it's very attractive and I'm not even crazy about stripes. It reminds me of a striped version of, 'Joseph's Coat'. I say see if anyone wants to offer it. Is it a Shrub?
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Half shrub, half floribunda. The petals widened to form circular blooms by September, which is what worried me. I hate quilled roses, but I do love star-shaped roses, like Hoagy Carmichael!
HW and Piccadilly grow quite well here, and the defoliate quite well here. Whatever race of blackspot plagues them, is common here. However, Playboy is immensely popular here, and it does not seem to be prone to this strain, even though it is 1/4 Piccadilly.
Which is something I found peculiar. This line is prone to mutating striped sports, including mauve stripes found in 'Blueberry Hill', but I do not recall a striped 'Playboy' ever -- only hybrids of it that are striped and hybrids of it that have striped mutations in them.
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The Ultimate Rose Book has its version, I can give another. It seems that Mr Wheatcroft visited Australia in the early '70s, and was introduced to a rose grower who had an interesting sport growing on a plant of 'Piccadilly'. Harry was so interested that he offered to take budwood to England, propagate it, and "see how it would go". "GO" it did, making money for Mr Wheatcroft, and it was the last the West Australian rosarian ever heard of his sport, Harry, or any royalties.
This story was told to me a long time ago by Ted Treloar, former manager of Treloar Roses, Portland, Victoria, Australia. Ted was a gentleman, and utterly trustworthy.
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For the record, do you recall the West Australian's surname, Laurie?
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No Pat, Ted didn't name names.
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Thank you anyway Laurie.
One of these days when my world stops spinning, I am going to have to stop and pick your brains on many things - I know you have so much to share. But just right now, my world seems to be picking up speed and so I have side-lined this for one day in the future. Just stay well and healthy until I can catch up!
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