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'JACven' rose Reviews & Comments
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25 JAN 12 by
 goncmg
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This one surprises me that it has "fallen away" and is only available through specialty growers. Grew it fom introduction until the early 90's, both in Chico, CA and Columbus, OH and both places it was a strong plant, blooms have superb form, in my experience far FAR better than Saratoga, better than Ivory Fashion, just so different than Iceberg. Good, pure white floribundas have always been a rarity, how this lost its staying power escapes me.
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31 AUG 07 by
Warski
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This will be year two of my ownwership of Evening Star. I've grown her from a cutting, because she is, evidently, out of fashion at present. (I couldn't tell you why, as this rose is a true beauty.) Her blooms are a rich, creamy white, with a sensual thickness to her petals. Her foliage is a dark green semi-gloss and her fragrance is sweet and thick in the air. So far, she's reached only two feet in height, but is thriving with 4 hours of afternoon sun here in LA. Even at this young age, she promises to be one of the great roses in my garden. One more thing: I know Evening Star to be a Hybrid Tea, not a Floribunda - all my literature from the 70s and 80s lists her as such. If anyone knows how this happened, please, enlighten me.
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Warski,
This rose is available commercially from Roses Unlimited. You do have to look under the floribunda section of their catalog to find it. In all my books this is also listed as a floribunda.
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#2 of 8 posted
15 MAR 08 by
Warski
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Dear Gleason's, I actually, ordered this very rose from Roses Unlimited three years ago, after having known about it since 1975 or 6. There is no way that I have enough knowledge to say that Evening Star is a true hybrid tea, however, I have seen it listed both ways. My experience with it tends to make me believe it is an HT because of its form - one bloom per stem, long stems, medium height at present, not continual bloom, but nice repeat.
As time goes on, it will be interesting to see if its stature changes. In any case, I'm happy with either classification. Happy too that you replied. Thank you.
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The reason I was even looking this up is because I am thinking about adding this to my collection, and want to get it as a (VID) from the FPMS program at Univ Cal-Davis. I did not know anything about it, so I pulled out some books, and read up on it. All books love it, and everyone out here seems to also.
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#5 of 8 posted
15 MAR 08 by
Warski
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I'm not familiar with FPMS other than its being a test/share program for growers. It doesn't usually include the individual. Roses Unlimited's cutting served me very well. However, I certainly recommend this rose. It is lush, (foliage and bloom) and very disease resistant. If there's disappointment, it's that the open bloom lasts too short a time - around 5 days, as opposed to what we've become used to with some of the newer HTs - Sheer Magic, Vet's Honor, Gemini and the like. (Again, here I go with the HT)
If your able to get to Huntington Gardens in Pasadena CA, they have a beautiful specimen on their grounds.
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#4 of 8 posted
15 MAR 08 by
Cass
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Hi, Warski,
'Evening Star'/Jacven was patented as "intermediate in type between hybrid tea and floribunda" and is a cross of a HT and a Floribunda. The ARS registration is as a Floribunda. So that's the origin of the why classification for this rose isn't easy but why it's called a Floribunda.
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#6 of 8 posted
15 MAR 08 by
Warski
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Thanks Cass, Great to know. I'll go with that. Floribunda, Floribunda, Floribunda. I'll have to do a bit of conditioning to the brain - like reversing muscle memory - but I can handle it. It's amazing that after year, there are two responses to my original question. I'm very grateful.
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It has been officially listed as the original For-Tea in at least one rose book (the Ultimate Rose Book?)- I've never seen any others follow in that category. It does consistently deliver the most perfectly formed buds of any white rose that I 've seen and I used to collect whites: White Lightning, Jack Frost, White Queen, JFK, Tineke, Cystaline, Frau Karl Druski, White Simplicity, Mme AlfredCarriier, Dudley Cross, Iceberg, French Lace, Honor, Pristine, Sheer Bliss.
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I believe it was peddled as the first "Flortea", an idea that never caught on. I also grow it in LA and though it's being smothered by of Bird of Paradise it does ok. It has hearbreakingly beautiful form with every bud.
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4 FEB 10 by
Kat
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Evening Star is one of my all-time favorite roses since it was first sold by Jackson & Perkins. I try never to be without it. Fortunately, Roses Unlimited has kept it available. I have grown in here in Zone 5 quite successfully, even without protection some years, but have lost them in severe winters without protection.
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25 FEB 04 by
Anonymous-1944
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Evening Star was very common & easy to find in the late '70's in northern California. I have one bush & I love it as it's so disease resistant & is practically thornless & has a lovely fragrance. I would like to get another bush, but I can't find one anywhere now. Is Evening Star still available?
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Evening Star is still a popular rose and many nurseries carry it. Pickering Nurseries in Canada does and they ship to the States.
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#2 of 4 posted
6 NOV 05
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If you go to the rose page for 'Evening Star' and click on the "Available At" tab at the top of the page, you will find one of our sponsoring nurseries lists the rose as available in their most recent inventory list.
Smiles,
Lyn
helpmefind.com
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#4 of 4 posted
24 JUN 06 by
Warski
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Hi, I found Evening Star at Roses Unlimited (N.Carolina). I ordered it. It came as a cutting with two blooms in a 1 gal. can. It has had 3 repeats since April here in LA and I now have it in a 14" pot. I'm crazy about it, color, scent and its tactile depth. The only drawback for me is its lack of staying power. Blooms last about 4 days, then shatter, on the bush or cut. As it matures, I'll watch to see if that remains a problem.
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#5 of 4 posted
24 JUN 06
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#6 of 4 posted
31 AUG 07 by
Warski
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I've just posted my recent experience with Evening Star, however, I didn't say where I got the cutting. So, because you would like to have the rose, I can highly recommend rosesUnLMTD@aol.com. They have this bush or a few of them, from which they take cuttings and send these on to the public when asked to do so. Good luck.
Warski
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