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'Kleine Echo' rose Reviews & Comments
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It seems likely that 'Klein Echo' may be the same rose as 'Baby Echo', which is apparently just another name for 'Echo' (see Standardized Plant Names reference, 1923).
Is there any good reason to suppose that 'Klein Echo' is different from 'Echo'?
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#1 of 3 posted
28 APR 23 by
 Lee H.
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The 1936 Rosenlexikon sport reference…?
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Where did that info come from? Rosenlexikon is the only source, and is not especially reliable.
Nor does the reference say how 'Klein Echo' is supposed to be different from 'Echo'. 'Echo' is supposed to be a dwarf form of 'Tausendschön', so in theory, is already 'klein'... In actuality, it seems to have been an unstable sport, often reverting back to 'Tausendschön'.
What seems just as (or more) likely is that a German Nursery imported 'Baby Echo', assuming that it was a sport, and renamed it 'Klein Echo', perhaps without realizing it was not a sport.
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#3 of 3 posted
30 APR 23 by
jedmar
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Possible, but a conhecture until we find a reference to 'Klein Echo' priot to 1936.
It seems to me that the differentiation was that 'Klein Echo' was pure pink and retained its colour, while 'Echo' is a different shade of pink and fades to white.
The photo of Harald Enders from Sangerhausen would then indicate that Sangerhausen has 'Echo' instead of 'Klein Echo'
Kiese actually died in 1923, but there are Kiese roses with dates until 1930. Modified these as bred before 1923, but introduced by H. Kiese & Co (son Wilhelm Kiese) at the later dates.
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