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'Command Performance' rose Reviews & Comments
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5 days ago by
 goncmg
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When this variety “gets it right” it gets it sooooooo right. Alas, in my experiences in Northern California, Ohio and Florida it rarely does get it anywhere near “right” and more often than not is a thorny, partially defoliated tower of yuck. But I can’t not grow it because wow. It’s the “dream” rose I envision those times the planets align……
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Your photo shows good color and healthy foliage. Do you think CP is in any way an improvement on 'Tropicana'? Are there any 'Tropicana' descendants you can recommend, even only with reservations?
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5 days ago by
goncmg
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Hi there! That was a fast comment! And a good question. Here’s the strange background: I can’t grow Tropicana. That variety hates me. It hated me when I was 5 it most recently hated me at 56. It hates me no matter what format I try to grow it in: budded, own root, first rate plant, body bag rescue, in a pot or in the ground, Northern California, Central Ohio, Northeastern coastal Florida. So for me, as measured against its Mother who hates me, it is a little bit of an improvement. And in general the blooms are more star shaped exhibition. The foliage and stems and buds looks a lot like Tropicana. It’s super tall and thin like Hawaii. I think the color is a bit more saturated than either parent, it’s a bit more orange than Tropicana, the color captures in my photos are accurate! But in the big picture? No. I don’t think it’s an improvement over Tropicana. I don’t think it’s even much of an improvement over Hawaii. And that seemed to be the general assessment 55 years ago at introduction. I’m pretty certain it ranks amongst the “you’ve got to be kidding me” AARS award recipients. And I agree with that even though I personally love it. As for other children of Tropicana I need to think on that. It’s weird but nothing immediately jumps to my mind!
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#3 of 4 posted
5 days ago by
Lee H.
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Christopher, do you spray? I grow a lot of the “mid century greats” that you do (including Tropicana), but I know they probably would never come close to flourishing if I didn’t keep up a rigorous program.
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#4 of 4 posted
5 days ago by
goncmg
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Oh yes. I spray. Pretty frequently in spring then I’m tired by August when generally it won’t stop raining and there is no point. I also use very strong liquid seaweed solution to water them and it seems to help keep disease at bay. I have less blackspot here in Florida than I did in Ohio! I’m right on the coast and there’s always a breeze and that’s got to be why? Breeze and seaweed? I don’t spray the blooms or buds and I don’t use insecticides but I do mix up the Daconil nice and strong. You can see the residue on the leaves in the pic.
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Perhaps we can update some characteristics.
Botanica’s Roses pg 172 further says…
“…medium-sized, orange-red blooms…”
“…oval buds…”
“…vigorous-growing, tall bush that is clothed with dark green, leathery foliage.”
“…best method of propagation is by budding…”
“Zones: 4 - 9”
The Ultimate Rose Book, pg 126 says…
“…humid-summer areas…gets mildew badly…”
“…long elegant buds…”
“Foliage is leathery.”
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#1 of 2 posted
10 OCT by
jedmar
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Thaank you, we have also added characteristics mentioned in the patent.
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8 MAY 23 by
ksinGA
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CP is a very vigorous grower in Atlanta. The color is SO ORANGE!
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Is this an improvement on 'Tropicana'?
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#2 of 2 posted
9 MAY 23 by
ksinGA
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Definitely more healthy than Tropicana. And a better fragrance.
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21 APR 13 by
goncmg
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Another one that came "late" to the orange hype of late 50's-early 70's yet was the only one, other than its parent Tropicana, to get EXTREME exposure. Grew this in late 70's in Chico, CA and wow and yes, this one does get tall! It is a thorny beast, too, as so many oranges are. It marginally was an improvement over its other parent, Hawaii, has the same gorgeous star shaped blooms but on a far stronger plant but yes, it still mildews (seems to be a huge and never-ended issue with Tropicana seedlings) and also blackspots (comes with the color). NOW this one is barely available and I have 2 maidens of it and looking forward to seeing it again..................for anyone who has ever craved ORANGE and a FORMAL bloom, this is an option if you can get it. This one looks, bloom wise, a lot like BIENVENU and of the 2, Bienvenu should have won the AARS but Bienvenu got saddled with that "death knell" GR classification in 1969 and was released in a year where AARS more or less got it "right" (although COMANCHE, GR as well, over Bienvenu is really funny)............ and this one got HT although they both tend to bloom ONE per fat, thorny stem and get BIG, even in a colder climate...............in 2013 this color seems outdated although so many people I know claim to "love" orange roses...............
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