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Initial post 4 days ago by ThomasR
Hi, I just noticed twenty buds on an Alba Suaveolens (from Lottum) yesterday - see pictures ; it is mid-fall in France and the buds were scattered all across the bush. I guess the weather may have tricked it into some reblooming, also I thought the leaves looked less healthy as usual this year. I didnt notice that on other once-bloomers Double Scotch, wichuraianas and local wild roses... Except for Rouge Marbrée which for the first time is showing flowers in Autumn. I was wondering if someone had a similar experience with an Alba rose ?
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 4 days ago by Nastarana
The Vintage Garden Book of Roses stated that they, the nursery proprietors, had had reports of rebloom on Alba maxima. Alba semiplena, maxima and suaveolens are all members of the same sport family. I don't have a citation, but I believe it has now been determined that the albas came from a (probably) spontaneous cross between R. canina and a Damask rose. We do know that some of the Damasks do rebloom, so I think it is entirely possible that the albas may have inherited a reblooming recessive gene which occasionally expresses as scattered fall bloom.
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 4 days ago by ThomasR
Thank you Nastarana for your reference, I couldnt find any, this book seems to be a collector !
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 3 days ago by Nastarana
A Most Treasured Possession for those of us who bought one when the nursery was closing.

I hope fair use covers this: Vintage Garden Book of Roses, 2006, p. 23, from the description of Alba maxima:

"Late summer rebloom in California is reliable on mature plants that are well grown."
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 3 days ago by ThomasR
This is so interesting ! I just read hypothesis about the origins of Albas, I think there is still a doubt about their lineage, and also I was wondering how they behaved in different climates. Another bloom that surprised me the same day was from rosaceae Cydonia Oblonga.
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Reply #5 of 6 posted yesterday by Nastarana
Do you know of any source for non-paywalled information about the origin of the alba group?
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Reply #6 of 6 posted today by ThomasR
There is an article in the newsletter of the World Federation Of Rose Societies ("By Any Other Name"issue 26) in which Karin Schade explains her work on the Alba group. The editorial note states that the origin of Albas is still uncertain. I will send you the link in a private message.
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Initial post today by scvirginia
Has anyone grown this rose to compare it with 'Léda'? If 'L'Enchantress' in commerce is 'Léda', we should perhaps move the misleading photos?
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Initial post today by Deborah Petersen
Having grown 'Kathrinerl' for over 5 years now (thanks to Jeri) this rose has become one of my all-time favorites, certainly among the top-ten of what is in my garden. It is floriferous (nearly continuous), trouble-free, and both the color and origami-like folding of the blooms are utterly charming. Mid-November and it is still blooming.
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Initial post 2 days ago by BrianCreeksEnd
When I click on Patent information I get this error.


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Reply #1 of 4 posted 2 days ago by HMF Admin
This happens when internet bots scan HelpMeFind and overwhelm it. It usually only lasts a few minutes.

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Reply #4 of 4 posted today by BrianCreeksEnd
Thank you for the update.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted yesterday by jedmar
It is also the USPTO that has created hurdles.
Go directly on your browser to "Patent Public Search". Click "Basic Search". Type the number as PP18473.

If you get a message like try later, just open simultaneously a second browser window with Patent Public Search. That usually works.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted today by BrianCreeksEnd
Thank You!. I have for several years tried to figure out how to do a patent search on that site.
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