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Description page has no photo, but there is a photo in the photos tab.
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#1 of 1 posted
yesterday by
 jedmar
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If a photo is marked as erroneous, it does not show up in the description page. this stays so until the question is resolved one way or other. This rose is no longer at L'Haÿ.
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10 FEB 19 by
flodur
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This rose is not bred by Rolf Sievers, but by Dr. Dzidra Alfredovna Rieksta, Lettland as 'Ritausma'. The rose was imported by Gustav Strobel in the 1960s on unclarified paths from the Botanical Garden Leningrad / St. Petersburg to Western Europe. Since licensing rights of products of the then USSR were unclear, it was given the name 'Kamchatka' at the reintroduction in 1988 by Ingwer Jensen, who received it via Rolf Sievers, with the remark 'introduced by Rolf Sievers / Ingwer Jensen'. In 1991, BKN Strobel and 2004 Meilland introduced them under the provisional name 'Polaris'. Through direct comparisons of the rose expert Suzanne Verrier, this rose could be given its correct name again. Rolf Sievers has confirmed this true identity and the story to me.
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#2 of 7 posted
11 FEB 19 by
flodur
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That is the problem with stolen roses! Sorry for my typing error, Strobel used the name 'Kamtschatka' (not 'Kamchatka'. And not to be confused with 'Kamchatka Rose' = 'Kamtchatica').
If you put it together with 'Ritausma', Rieksta 1963 = 'Polar Ice', 'Polareis', 'Polarisx', introduced in Germany 1988 as 'Kamtschatka' by Ingwer Jensen - that would be correct. Have a nice day!
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Done. It all looks OK.
But I am now going to share a Note we have had in the file since 2006:
Ritausma vs Polareis. This must be 2 different roses. Here in Norway we are growing this roses. Ritausma been taller and have more slender canes. Polareis has less count of petals and have less pink flowers. The leaves on Ritausma have more slender form. The Polareis roses we have come from BKN Strobel, Germany and the Ritausma roses from Knud Pedersen, Denmark.
Best regards Roger Jaksland, Professional adviser for the Norwegian Rose Society
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#4 of 7 posted
12 FEB 19 by
flodur
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I talked to Rolf Sievers: The only explanation he has, Gustav Strobel received two variations of 'Ritausma' from Leningrad (One was introduced by Rieksta as 'Ritausma', the other came into trade by these special ways, never authorized by Rieksta). We cannot ask Strobel anymore. I passed the question to Erling Østergard, who has the world largest collection of Rugosas.
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#5 of 7 posted
13 FEB 19 by
flodur
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Erling Østergard, Denmark has Ritausma from Knud Pedersen, Polareis from Sangerhausen and Kamtschatka from a nursery in France. All three are the same rose, no differences at all. It could be that the Norwegian roses differ in the stock used - that may have influence on the budded rose.
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Thank you for your trouble flodur. Appreciated.
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#7 of 7 posted
8 AUG by
mballen
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Speaking of origins, Google translate tells me that the word "Ritausma" means "Dawn" in Latvian, suggesting a Latvian connection. Whatever the origin, it is a glorious rose. I planted one in my cousin's garden in Springs, Long Island, where it has grown into a tree-like shrub and is the Diva of her spring garden.
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How old is this rose? I wonder if it takes a special kind of pruning to get rugosas to this tree-like shape?
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This rose has been "retired". It's still in stock at Heirloom Roses *for now* (January 26, 2022). They will not be re-stocking it. So anyone who really wants it should buy it now.
On the bright side, it's out of patent (applied in 1997, so expired 2017). So it looks like cuttings are free and clear for anyone who wants to exchange them.
(I don't have this variety - I had to choose based on limited space, and Emma Hamilton won out.)
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"love-roses.com" sell jude the obscure rose.
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THANK YOU!
For resolving my login issue. All is well.
Robert
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