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I can't contribute any notions about ID except to say that a rose which has been found in multiple places, not in the same neighborhood, is unlikely to be a chance seedling.
I can say that it is one of the strongest, toughest roses I have grown. I had it in a southwest facing corner, bright sun bouncing off a wood fence, and it not only survived but flourished.
I do hope it remains in commerce, perhaps could be renamed "Guardian Angel" for better sales?
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Finally, I can plant a rose garden on the palm of my hand.
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#1 of 3 posted
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 Lee H.
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Instead of compact, perhaps the description should be “sub-compact” :-)
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#2 of 3 posted
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jedmar
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Corrected, thank you!
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Thanks for the itty bitty correction hehe
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Did 'Mischief' REALLY receive the 'Clay Vase for Fragrance in 1961 ?
It only scored 5/10 for fragrance and most online shops describe it as only 'mild', 'Medium' or 'lightly' scented.
Please see the very bottom of p.156 of the RNRS Rose Annual 1962 for the previous year's (1961) ratings.
The error might lay in failing to notice the colon at the end of the 'Clay Vase' award description which seems to indicate
that the real winner of the prize is at the top of the following page (p.157) with a score of 8/10 for scent:
'Westminster' H.T.
Raiser: H. Robinson.UK.1958 'Gay Crusader' x 'Peace'. Originally sold by LeGrice UK. 1960.
The HMF references page for that same 'Westminster' rose does say at the bottom
of the page that 'Westminster' got The Clay Vase in 1961.
However, Harry Wheatcroft wrote in his book 'In Praise of Roses' (1970) that 'Mischief' was the winner of The Clay Vase in 1961.
Perhaps Harry later read the RNRS Annual of 1962 and didn't notice the colon - or maybe he was
actually present at the judging and knew better than the information in the annual
-then the colon may have been a typing error by the authors of the annual?
Sam McGredy IV loved fragrance in roses and he was the breeder of 'Mischief' so it is quite telling that Mischief wasn't included
in his book 'Sam McGredy's Favourite Roses'
5/10 isn't bad though .
If anyone has grown Mischief and can vouch for the quality of its fragrance - well I for one would like to know!
Maybe it's average when sniffed but can really perfume a room when placed in a vase of water?
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jedmar
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Yes, apparently Harry Wheatcroft got it wrong, possibly he mixed it up with the President's International Trophy. The Reference from the Rose Annual 1974 does not list the Clay Cup for 'Mischief' either. Thank you for the heads up!
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Does anyone have any theories on the identity? It seems pretty widespread. It could be inferred that it was a commonly known rose at some point?
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