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"The parentage was published as 'Rouge Meilland' x 'Petit Trianon' (see Member comments). However, the US plant patent states a more complex parentage."
When I look at Petit Trianon, I see what could be DELge phenotype traits. Its plausible that it is the Golden Unicorn x DELge female parent to 'Loves Me, Loves Me Not', and a clerical error was made in the first publishing. We will likely never know, but that's my theory anyway.
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The striking appearance of the opening bloom of 'Lady Alice Stanley' in the photo from 'The Gardeners' Chronicle' of 26th Sep 1908 made me immediately recall the similar appearance of the bloom of 'Margaret McGredy' in the photo from 'The Garden' of 6th Oct 1923, enough to make me wonder if they could be closely related. 'Margaret McGredy's pollen parent isn't known but its seed parent, 'The Queen Alexandra' Rose and the other two are all from Sam McGredy III, and I wouldn't be surprised if 'Lady Alice Stanley' featured in his breeding programme.
Maybe it's my imagination but I also look at some of the photos of 'Lady Alice Stanley' and see some of the characteristics of 'Peace', although having read all the confusion over its parentage I'm not sure now how closely 'Peace is related to 'Margaret McGredy'.
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Hi, I just noticed twenty buds on an Alba Suaveolens (from Lottum) yesterday - see pictures ; it is mid-fall in France and the buds were scattered all across the bush. I guess the weather may have tricked it into some reblooming, also I thought the leaves looked less healthy as usual this year. I didnt notice that on other once-bloomers Double Scotch, wichuraianas and local wild roses... Except for Rouge Marbrée which for the first time is showing flowers in Autumn. I was wondering if someone had a similar experience with an Alba rose ?
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The Vintage Garden Book of Roses stated that they, the nursery proprietors, had had reports of rebloom on Alba maxima. Alba semiplena, maxima and suaveolens are all members of the same sport family. I don't have a citation, but I believe it has now been determined that the albas came from a (probably) spontaneous cross between R. canina and a Damask rose. We do know that some of the Damasks do rebloom, so I think it is entirely possible that the albas may have inherited a reblooming recessive gene which occasionally expresses as scattered fall bloom.
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Thank you Nastarana for your reference, I couldnt find any, this book seems to be a collector !
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A Most Treasured Possession for those of us who bought one when the nursery was closing.
I hope fair use covers this: Vintage Garden Book of Roses, 2006, p. 23, from the description of Alba maxima:
"Late summer rebloom in California is reliable on mature plants that are well grown."
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