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Initial post 7 JUN 05 by AMY
I am looking for a perfect PINK climbing rose that will get over 6 feet in zone five Chicago IL. I want something that is mildew and blackspot resistant , I do not want to use chemicals. And a climber that REALY reblooms. I have done some research and have ordered John Davis and Victorian Memory but I want something dencer than JD and I dont know how Victorian Memory will stand up to mildew and blackspot. Jeanne Lajoie is beautiful but will only get to four feet in this zone. Rosarian Uetersen is beautiful but I have heard not a reliable rebloom and slow growing. If anyone has a suggestion please let me know. PLEASE!!!! I am tired of planting roses and then finding out it was not what I thought. New Dawn turns white in the sun and does not rebloom; the Blaze Improved is a blackspot maganet and looks awful later summer.
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Reply #1 of 9 posted 7 JUN 05 by RoseBlush
I don't have any particular roses to recommend to you right now, but I can tell you how to hedge your bets against a rose having a propensity for blackspot. R. foetida is usually identified as bringing the genes for blackspot into the gene pool for roses. When you do your research go to the rose page for the rose you are checking out and review the linage reports. If you see R. foetida anywhere in the rose's genealogy, you know the rose in question has the genes to be susceptible to bs. That does not necessarily mean it will get blackspot in your microclimate, but it's more likely to get bs than a rose that does not have R. foetida in its linage.

Based upon how frustrated you sound in your post, I would keep this in mind when you are researching your roses.


Smiles,

Lyn
helpmefind.com
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Reply #2 of 9 posted 14 JUN 05 by The Oldrosarian
To get New Dawn to re-bloom, it needs to be well fed after the first bloom and well watered. It also likes to have a mulch all around the base to keep the roots cool. Don't give up on New Dawn and it does take a couple of years to settle in and preform as the books say.
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Reply #3 of 9 posted 14 JUN 05 by AMY
This spring after it got leaves I put some bone meal around the base and watered. I have to get to the store to buy some composted manure to spread around the base af the roses. I have been wondering why the nurseries sell the comp manure for so much more than some of the grocery stores. How can I tell if they are the same quality? Any other suggestions for fertilizer? Thanks for responding!
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Reply #4 of 9 posted 15 JUN 05 by Anonymous-97891
I have only read about it, but Parade might fit the bill. Nwe Dawn is one of its parents.
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Reply #5 of 9 posted 15 JUN 05 by AMY
Parade is beautiful but I think it is only hardy to zone 6. Someone on rose fourum on the internet just posted some beautiful pics of it. I am going to try Viking Queen even though it is listed as hardy to zone 6 I have heard from two sources that is can survive -30 degrees. I also want to see about Sarah van Fleet and how hardy it is. Thanks for your suggestion.
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Reply #6 of 9 posted 16 JUN 05 by The Old Rosarian
If the manure is called steer manure, then it is the type that is gathered up in the stockyards so you can expect a lot of sawdust in it plus very low nitrogen . But don't let that put you off as it is still a good addictive to any soil. Just read the numbers on the package and if they are the same as the nurseries, then the manure will probably be the same quality.
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Reply #7 of 9 posted 16 JUN 05 by Wendy C
Have you looked at Aloha? I don't grow this rose, but it looks as if it might fill your bill.

A good organic fertilizer is Alflafla, pellets or meal. You may have better luck with it than manure.
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Reply #8 of 9 posted 19 OCT 05 by Unregistered Guest
I'm growing Rosarium Uetersen, first year only, planted bareroot this mid-May. Grafted, not own roots, z6a, Great Lakes.
In mid-October it is 6ft high, around 10 branches, looks good. Rebloomed 4 times this season, now is in flowers too. Robust and very healthy - no powdery mildew or black spot even after weeks of rain. Grows better if has enough moisture and at least 1/4 of recommended fertilizing. Grows well in poor soil. Clusters of flowers.
On negative side - don't fit intended use as complimentary plant for a deep pink slightly translucent ruffled petals groundcover: it has medium-pink opaque petals, and too much of them, like old English roses. Young petals have pointed tops, very original. Looks very luxurious anyway.
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Reply #9 of 9 posted 19 OCT 05 by Unregistered Guest
Thankyou for the info on Rosarium Uetersen!! I am going to buy one spring of 06 and try it out. I have a Sea Foam that I want to move and replace with RU. I am new at rose growing, but am realizing how each type of rose grows so differently from one back yard to another. The bloom is soooo beautiful that I will try it.
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