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30 MAY 05 by
Angel
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HI Everyone,
I have a climbing rose that is just beautiful, and although I don't know what kind of rose it is or what it's name is, it's just one of my favorite plants around my house. It has lots of leaves and shoots, it seems to be very healthy, growing 5-7 feet tall, and has oodles of pale pink very fragrant blooms, they look like those little roses we used to make in elementary school with tissue paper...;) It has 3-5 blooms on each shoot, and if I deadhead it properly it will continue to bloom all summer. But it has a problem, it looses its petals before the blooms can open fully. It seems to be very healthy, it just can't hold onto it's petals for some reason. During it's blooms cycles I have to clean under and around the bush every day to keep the spent petals cleaned up.
Any ideas why this wonderful rose could be having this problem. I didn't find this site before I deadheaded it for the first time this year, but I did have some of the flowers, and if you don't shake them they still look pretty...;) I'd appreciate any advice you may have to offer....thanks!
Sorry for the multiple posts, I am an idiot and didn't register until after I had posted..;)
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Angel.........
This is the kind of question I love because I cannot do simple research and answer your questions. This means I have to think through the process of what the plant wants/ needs to perform at its best.
A rose, or any other plant, has one purpose in its life and that is to propagate the species. Many species roses have been found and used in breeding where they have a short growing season in their natural habitat. These roses are genetically programmed to come out of dormancy, bloom quickly, get pregnant by pollenators and drop their petals and form hips quickly. Your rose may have one or more species roses in the genealogy of this rose which causes it to express this trait.
I have not experienced a rose with petal drop in my own rose life, nor have I seen a particular rose with this problem I cannot tell you if the problem is caused by culture....how the rose is watered and fed, disease or insect infestation.
Another possibility to think about, as healthy as your plant looks in your photos, is the rose may not be getting enough sunlight. I think this is a minor possibility based upon what you have written about the plant's performance. It's the mention that the blooms do not open fully that indicates that they may not be getting sufficient sunlight.
The purpose of petals, color and scent of a rose are the tools by which the plant attracts pollenators. Once the bloom has been pollenated, the cycle is complete and the plant no longer needs to attract pollenators. Many roses will drop their petals at that time. Some gardeners think of this as a blessing because the plant doesn't look like it is covered with used Kleenex as the blooms age.
Since the plant is healthy where it is located, you may decide clean-up is just a part of growing this rose in this locatioin. Or if the problem cleaning up the dropped petals bothers you sufficiently, you may decided to move the rose to a new location and see if it continues to drop petals.
Maybe someone else in the rose community will have something more to add to this thread.
Good luck with your rose.
Smiles,
Lyn
helpmefind.com
PS...how could anyone who could post such an interesting question think of themselves as an idiot? Now that's a question I cannot answer.
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#2 of 4 posted
2 JUN 05 by
Andrea
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I hope someone can help. I have a problem similar to Angel's with my climbing rose "New Dawn." The rose looks a lot like Angel's rose that looses it's petals before fully opening. My New Dawn does the same and the outside of the buds have brownish/grayish spots on them. It was planted in spring of 2004 and this is it's first year to bloom. It is growing beautifully against an adobe wall and gets sun most of the day, though the wall itself shades it somewhat in the late afternoon. I live in zone 6/7, hot and dry. The soil was prepared with compost and the rose is fed with rose spikes. I hope someone can suggest what to do. The few blossoms without the spots are beautiful, though I wish there was more scent.
Andrea
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Andrea.......
You and Angel don't sound like you have the same problem. The brow spots are the indicator that you may have an insect infestation or possibly a disease problem. I don't like sprays very well, because I am not terribly consistent and create more problems than I solve with them.
However, washing your roses regularly is a great insecticidal prevention method. Also, 'New Dawn', at least from what I have read and heard over the years, is not the best rose for the Western dry climates. That does not mean I know this is true because I have not grown the rose.
You might want to contact a Consulting Rosarian from the local rose society to come and look at your rose. Some times that is the very best way to find out what's going on. They don't charge for this service and actually seeing the plant can give them more information that you can write in post.
Good luck with your rose.
Smiles,
Lyn,
helpmefind.com
PS...planting roses next to structures can make them more disease prone.
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Andrea.........
I accidentally deleted your post. Please forgive me. I do understand about living in a small town where there is not a local rose society to contact for a Consulting Rosarian to come look at your plants. I live in a small town. When I moved here, it seemed that I was finding insect damage from bugs I had never seen before. I really didn't want to spray and didn't know what to do. So I removed every bloom from the plant and put down new mulch at the base of the plant.
When the rose produced new blooms, I didn't have any more insect damage. I don't know what bug was messin' with my roses but it seems that by washing the plant and removing all of the sources where baby bugs might be developing, I managed to solve the problem. The bugs haven't appeared again this year, so if washing the plants doesn't solve your problem, take attacking the problem a step further.
Smiles,
Lyn
helpmefind.com
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