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'Compassion ®' rose Reviews & Comments
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Hello everyone,
I'm looking to identify a 5 foot plant that was somewhere between 'Compassion' and Kordes' Rosenseli but with a better formed flower than both which was colourfast, darker than 'Compassion' and held upright in groups of up to 3. It may have just been a tall, slender HT plant but really the standout feature was its fragrance which to sniff was medium 'rose' but 1-2 blooms in the vase easily spread it throughout the house - very powerful, of warm strawberries with maybe touches of vanilla and lime. Not at all spicy. Any ideas?
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Sorry Marlorena, I don't have a photo. If I did then it would be simple for me to find it with the help of HMF members. After looking for several years I even conversed with a judge from the RNRS and have searched right through the 'Rosebook' pages online and about 40 of my illustrated books and encyclopaedias all with no success.
The plant was growing in a friend's garden in South Norfolk, England, UK back in 2014. The property was bulldozed before I realised that my sister-in-law had been given permission to take cuttings and transfer the root mass - otherwise it could have ended up in my collection. Sadly, the owners of the property have since passed away. At the time I just assumed it would be easy for me to buy another plant of it from a local nursery but not so and I don't think I've seen it in online shops in the UK, Europe or anywhere. What I can tell you is that its fragrance (when in a vase) was more sensational and fruitier than 'Fragrant Cloud' and many others - though the colour of the blooms was a shade lighter than FC but more of a duller coral pink-orange - non-fading but in a line-up of coral pink HTs you might not single it out.. However, it had an excellent spiralled and reflexed form, a high centre and never flattened out or showed its middle. It lasted 5-8 days in the vase.
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In that case, I doubt anyone will be able to help you. It's often a tall order even with a photo.
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I agree but it's the fragrance (when left in a vase) that puts my mystery rose in another league and not the appearance of the sparse and leggy plant or its blooms though they were good (see my descriptions above and on the 'Rosenresli' and 'Norma Major' pages) and that's why there must be someone out there who knows.
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 HubertG
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Maybe 'Paris Charm'??
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Thank you for your suggestion HubertG but I don't think it could be anything from 'Prima Ballerina' as a parent (though 'Compassion' is close). My PB's blooms were densely double and full with little petals in the middle. Another of PB's offspring, the larger 'Fragrant Cloud' has heavyweight, almost cabbage-like heads. My mystery plant had narrower, boxy, high-centred blooms, turbinated with a spiralling lantern shape, never flattening out, did not show the middle or change it's orange-tinted, pink colour before the petals dropped off.
I grew Prima Ballerina this year and was seriously disappointed by the individual flower, the shortness of the plant and even the scent, having allowed myself to believe it would be something spectacular.
According to the 'Rosebook', Paris Charm has clusters of 5-7 blooms as well as solitary ones - my mystery plant had 1s or up to 3 together and not clustered. Also can Paris Charm grow to 5-foot tall here in the UK?
People might think 'Yawn - there's no pleasing some' but though the mystery plant definitely looked like a familiar coral hybrid tea it was at least comparable in form and colour to something like 'Touch of Class' (but not with 6-inch blooms!) and way better than most in the fragrance department - my clear favourite here.
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