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Initial post 17 DEC 20 by BrianP
Re rose Thyra Hammerich,
Not sure if this is an error, but I've just reviewed an article about this rose in L"Horticulteur Francais, 1968, page 113, in which it states that the breeder is Charles Verdier. The article also says it is a seedling of Duchesse de Sutherland, and that Verdier has just put it for sale along with two other roses of his, Henry Ledechaux and Clovis (both described there as well, briefly)
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 17 DEC 20 by jedmar
We have corrected the error that 'Thyra Hammerich' was introduced by Eugène Verdier & fils. It was by his brother Charles Verdier, as you mention. However, Ch. Verdier is not the breeder, but introduced several of Lédéchaux's roses (incl. 'Clovis' and 'Henri Lédéchaux'). In the 19th century, they did not take it exactly with terms like "obtenteur". I assume Ch. Verdier paid for the roses and became the owner. The reference from 1869 clearly points to an amateur breeder as the originator.
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