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Initial post yesterday by hebe
Available from - Wagner's Rose Nursery
https://www.wagnersrosenursery.com.au
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Initial post 11 MAY 22 by Margaret Furness
Does anyone, eg in New Zealand, have a hip photo of this rose? I'd like one for a booklet on Mystery Teas in Aus. Thanks,
Margaret
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 13 OCT by HubertG
A bit too late I'm afraid, but I notice a hip peeking out from behind the bloom in the photo here (id340253, 15 Feb 20).
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 13 OCT by Margaret Furness
Thank you, yes, that's the photo I ended up using. A couple of the Tea ladies keep an eye on the plant at Araluen, and it hasn't cooperated. "Stiff Lady Roberts" must set very few hips, and if the one in the photo is representative, they're much smaller than the big lobulated ones produced fairly often by Anna Olivier/Lady Roberts. The Tea ladies say its growth pattern is different, too.
Overall SLR is unlikely to be a sport of Anna Olivier, and may well be Souvenir of Stella Gray, as you suggested.
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 14 OCT by HubertG
Margaret, this winter I ordered a plant of 'Lady Roberts' from Ross' actually hoping it would really be "Stiff Lady Roberts" as I had read that's what someone else had received from them. It's too early to tell yet for sure, but it's looking encouraging as the plant was quite small and twiggy, and the new growth has been quite reddish, and the leaf shape more like "Stiff Lady Roberts" than 'Lady Roberts'.
If it does become apparent that I've received "Stiff Lady Roberts" I'll keep an eye on hip development for you.
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 14 OCT by Margaret Furness
My "Stiff Lady Robert" came from them. I did give them the "Nannup Bridge Lady Roberts" (Anna Olivier) a few years ago but they're not keen on changing labels.
I'll be interested to know how your plant goes. If it sets a hip, would you please post me (and post) a photo of hip and seeds when it's ripe, and try planting the seeds.
Souv. of Stella Gray has no descendants recorded on hmf.
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 14 OCT by HubertG
I'll update on my plant and watch out for hips, in fact I'll probably actively pollinate it, and I'll happily post anything that it produces. I also suspect the plant labelled 'Lady Roberts' that I saw at Parramatta Park years ago was probably "Stiff Lady Roberts" and as I intend to return soon to photograph the Gallicas there, I'll check for hips on their 'Lady Roberts' too.
I suspect 'Souvenir of Stella Gray' might not have been very fertile if it was a Tea-Hybrid Tea mix, or if it did readily produce hips it might not have been used in anyone's breeding programme in that period when Teas were going out of style.
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 24 OCT by HubertG
Margaret, I recently checked out the bush labelled as 'Lady Roberts' in the Rumsey Rose Garden in Parramatta Park. I remembered it years ago as being low growing, bushy and somewhat sprawling but instead of getting bigger it seems to have gone backwards in growth. It appears to have been cut back hard at some point and there wasn't a lot of new growth. No flowers or hips present. I couldn't tell by the foliage which Lady Roberts it was but I suspect it's "Stiff Lady Roberts".
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 2 days ago by HubertG
It's still too early to tell with certainty what exactly I have but the second bud on my plant is distinctly rich yellow splashed and veined with pinky crimson. I'm leaning towards it being "Stiff Lady Roberts".
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Initial post 2 days ago by jedmar
Grave of the amateurs? This is surely one of the strangest rose names.
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Initial post 2 days ago by Ericchn
GORGEOUS flowers!! To me the scent is unpleasant. Vigorous growth, really good repeat, leaves are susceptible to black spots, flowers could slightly ball in prolonged periods of rain.
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