'JACtourn' rose reviews and comments

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Discussion id : 129-401 most recent 23 JUN 22 SHOW ALL

Initial post 16 OCT 21 by sohna

This rose is in the Nan Elliott Memorial Rose Garden in Alton, Illinois. I think it replaced Fame, which is not there, even though the plant list says it is (and no, I didn't mistake them; the marker says "Voluptuous.") It grows and blooms very well, about 4 feet tall, covered with blooms in October.	REPLY

Reply #1 of 2 posted 24 OCT 21 by HMF supporting member

MADActuary

First year budded (Dr. Huey) plant of Voluptuous did fabulously well in my Zone 5b (Chicagoland) garden this year. Very good vigor and prolific bloomer. Definitely a keeper for me.	REPLY

Reply #2 of 2 posted 23 JUN 22 by HMF supporting member

MADActuary

My Voluptuous came through winter unscathed and is perhaps the best performer in my garden in 2022. This is a very underrated HT. It's done so well that I am adding another one this year. Just a great garden rose.	REPLY

Discussion id : 127-844 most recent 28 MAY 21 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 28 MAY 21 by drossb1986

This is my first year growing Voluptuous, and it has been a great rose! Very healthy. It has been covered in bright pink/fuchsia blooms. They last a long time on the plant and take their time opening which is nice as they last a while in a vase or provide long-lasting color in the garden. I will note that the foliage is light green. Mine is not dark green at all. It reminds me in some ways of Fame, although the flower shape is definitely different. All-in-all, an A+ plant so far and I highly recommend.

Discussion id : 13-147 most recent 27 OCT 12 SHOW ALL

Initial post 9 JUL 06 by John Moody

I planted Voluptuous in my now zone 6 garden this past spring of 2006. It has really started growing and blooming vigorously and already producing lots of large fuschia blooms. This is going to be a fun rose to watch this whole growing season to see how it continues to thrive and produce.
The one thing that I am watching for this next year is the thickness and strength of the canes and stems as they never seemed to really bulk up it's first year and the flowers definitely nod because of it. Maybe it will get stronger in it's second year and thereon. Did anyone else experience this nodding with the rose its' first year?? Did it improve in subsequent years??

Reply #1 of 6 posted 10 JUN 07 by Unregistered Guest

I noticed the parents of this rose are a floribunda and grandiflora, so I really think this rose should be classified as a grandiflora, not hybrid tea. Tournament of Roses and Trumpeter both don't have stout canes, and that may be why its offspring doesn't either.	REPLY

Reply #2 of 6 posted 10 JUN 07 by HMF supporting member

RoseBlush

The classification of modern roses is determined by the breeder. When blooms are borne mostly solitary, that is one of the defining characteristics of a hybrid tea. Grandiflora roses are cluster flowered roses. Smiles, Lyn	REPLY

Reply #3 of 6 posted 28 JUN 07 by Unregistered Guest

My two grandiflora roses Queen Elizabeth and Love both bloom one flower per stem, and not in clusters. Perhaps the breeder was wrong? Or maybe labeling this rose as a hybrid tea would sell more bushes? Smiles, Carlene.	REPLY

Reply #4 of 6 posted 4 JUN 10 by Laurie Newman

As Lyn says, the breeder selects the classification. Nothing to do with parents. What class is Rose 'Iceberg'? Hybrid Musk mother, HT father. Classified by Reimer Kordes as Floribunda. Personally, given its wonderful constitution and general resistance to fungal infection, I consider it might to be properly considered a Hybrid Musk. Rosa 'Virgo' we know is a martyr to Powdery Mildew, but does not affect Rosa 'Iceberg'. There are very few HT roses that don't ever produce a cluster flowered watershoot. What do we prune out of an old watershoot but the centre candelabra, and leave the two lower laterals, trimming them to a plump bud. Thus begins the one bloom per lateral of a HT rose. Grandifloras also follow suit, they are a little more likely to linger with multiple heads, but will still produce solitary blooms on one cane.

Carlene, if you can't get Rosa 'Queen Elizabeth' to cluster, might I suggest that it is not growing very vigorously. If you are in Southern California, I suspect it should get to 8 feet tall. At that height it should be cluster flowering. Rosa 'Love' is another matter. For me it just had little vigour, and behaved and looked like a Hybrid Tea. It sulked in my garden.

Reply #5 of 6 posted 4 JUN 10 by Carlene

I ended up shovel-pruning Queen Elizabeth as insects had infected the bud union, and it wasn't blooming much. Love is still doing well in the ground, partially shaded by a fig tree, although still blooms like a hybrid tea. In our clay soil I found the Earth Kind roses, and teas and chinas do best. I keep the new modern roses I buy that need to be pampered in pots now, in part-shade, next to a water source where I can water them all the time. I have the best luck in growing the cluster-flowered roses this way, in our soil and climate. Thanks.

Reply #6 of 6 posted 27 OCT 12 by Ariel7

Hi. I see it's been a few years, but I will respond to your question. Yes, Voluptuous gets heavy blooms, and when the plant is young, the blooms can "nod.". But this definitely is not a problem with my two-year-old bush. Sometimes one stem has multiple blooms, and then the whole branch bows, and needs some support. However, this doesn't happen often.

As for heat--I live in West Texas, where the sun is intense. My plant gets a full day of sun, 12 hours or more, almost every day. Voluptuous grows vigorously, and blooms with heavy flushes of blooms about every six weeks. The fall flush is just as prolific as the spring flush, the summer flushes somewhat less.. I don't notice any wilting of the blooms in intense sun. This is one gorgeous, happy plant.

One thing I do which may help--all my HTs love bonemeal, and respond happily to being fed. I noticed when I started feeding them that their stems seemed stronger. Definitely they were more prolific.

Discussion id : 51-543 most recent 19 AUG 11 SHOW ALL

Initial post 12 JAN 11 by monica

I had planted voluptuous last season, it is a fast grower, but i never got to see the rose itself, voles ate all the roots of the plant and killed it. So, iam getting another this spring and iam rocking my garden to protect my roses from voles. from the pics this looks like a winner, iam loving the color of this one.	REPLY

Reply #1 of 1 posted 19 AUG 11 by monimoni

Update:

I did purchase another voluptuous this spring, it slept n slept, it didnt flower until now, it has 8 blooms on it, the colors is fantastic!!! I have over 90 roses in my garden now, and iam drawn to the color of this rose. I noticed it is slow to open, i love that, and has held its blooms for over two weeks, that is longer than my traviatas, janice kellog , tineke and wildfire, iam impressed. One thing i did notice but am not sure of is that it doesnt seem to like to much sun. The location that voluptuous is in gets sun 8hrs a day, this seems to make the rose limp and the edges burn slightly, after the sun moves on, it will stand straight and come back to life, i was wondering is it because it is young or should i move it to a shadier location? This rose has no problems with black spottin, or mildew, it has remained clean while some of my other varities have not. I thought it would have died with all the rain we got this spring in zone 6,pa, the rains killed 5 of my newbies, two of which were right next to voluptuous, but it has survived. Because it is so young i have not noticed a scent or cut it yet. I took so long to bloom, didnt think i would have any blooms this season, but as the saying goes, first they sleep, then creep, then leap, i guess its now creeping, and i cant wait to see it leap next year. I will post and update as it goes through the winter.