Thank you Jedmar. Whilst that is somewhat reassuring I would love it to grow like a HT here as after two years most are 5-6 feet tall. Mind you both of our one and two years old ‘Gloire de Dijon’ are also tiny not even 25cm tall though they have managed to squeeze out a flower now and again which is a wonderful unexpected surprise. I do make a habit of removing the buds to help concentrate the plant’s energy into root and foliage growth but so far very little. I’m swaying slightly off-subject but Desprez à Fleurs Jaunes is almost the same; vigorous growth when first planted as a bare-root grafted on laxa very floriferous giving three flushes in its first season yet it remains after two years around 40cm ‘tall’. After reading that ‘Noisettes’ can be slow burners I just put it down to that though the relatively warm and mild winter climate here should facilitate vigorous growth? Most other families of roses here including some old heritage teas grow really well.

Do you have any experience of growing ‘The Noisettes’ and which area of the World are you growing rose varieties?

Again, thank you for such a prompt reply.

PS - there does seem to be little in terms of repeat-flowering vigorous climbing varieties with violet flowers do you have any experience with Night Owl or Stormy Weather ( reading comments stating not really a climber?).