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This is the outstanding performer in my high-prairie garden just east of the Rocky Mountains (Zone 5).
After three years, the plant is about 4 feet tall and wide. From early June until sometime in October, it is full of flowers. And the foliage is gorgeous. So far (knock wood!) there has been no winter damage, despite some night temperatures below -20 F.
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#1 of 6 posted
4 OCT 04 by
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i AM INTERESTED IN YOUR COMMENT ABOUT aBBAYE DE cLUNY. THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL ROSE AND I WOULD LOVE TO GROW IT BUT NEVER DREAMED OF TRYING IT IN MY ZONE 4 SOUTH DAKOTA LOCATION. DO YOU DO ANYTHING SPECIAL IN TERMS OF WINTER PROTECTION? ALSO I'M WONDERING WHERE IT IS IN TERMS OF NEAR A HOUSE, OUT IN THE OPEN. THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY.
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Nothing ventured, nothing grown *grin* Still, Zone 4 makes me nervous on this one. One of the parents, as you probably know, is Just Joey, which some people think is hardy into zone 5, but is not reliably so. Several of the roses in the "family tree" are hardy only to zone 7, so that might give further pause. I bought this as a kind of lark because of interest in the Romanticas, but its hardiness has been a huge surprise to me.
Interestingly, Larry at Northland Rosarium has this on his list, and he sells hardy stock. I'd definitely get it "own root" and would try to site it v-e-r-y carefully.
The bush away from the house, a little west of a fence that probably shields it from the brightest morning sun. Our lot is quite small and the cramped subdivision we live in probably improves the microclimate at least half a zone in some parts of the garden. I haven't done anything for winter protection to this point, but that might change because we expect a hard winter.
Isn't being on the edge kind of fun, anyway? *grin* You can see that my photo has a lot more pink than many others; it's a pretty true to life representation of the buds and blossoms that absolutely cover this bush. (Oh, dear. I started out cautious and now I seem to be leading you to temptation...)
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#3 of 6 posted
22 OCT 04 by
marichen
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hi!
I live in germany (nothern part) climate zone 7b and my exierence with abbye de cluny is that is not very tolarant to rain. it is indeed a very beautiful rose but in areas with much rain it is sad to see how the buds turn into mumies.
marichen
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#4 of 6 posted
8 MAY 07 by
Nan W
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This has been the best performer in my garden (zone 5-6, SE Michigan), except for when it rains, and then this past winter. It spurts up to 6 or 7 feet, is filled with blooms which look gorgeous against the dark green foliage. But it does ball in wet weather. I have had it for 3 winters, and never winterized it (it is in a protected spot, against a brick wall). Then, this winter we had a very mild period in January when everything started budding out, but got a big surprise when things went back to normal freezing temps in February. All of my six roses suffered, though all have since shown tiny new growths way at the bottom -- except Abbaye de Cluny. At least so far! I am looking for another apricot colored, very floriferous rose with a more classic HT shape to the bloom -- I bought this before I realized I didn't like the cupped form (and that it wouldn't do well in our damp summers).
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Nancy,
Thanks for taking the time to share your experience !
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#5 of 6 posted
8 MAY 07 by
Nan W
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This has been the best performer in my garden (zone 5-6, SE Michigan), except for when it rains, and then this past winter. It spurts up to 6 or 7 feet, is filled with blooms which look gorgeous against the dark green foliage. But it does ball in wet weather. I have had it for 3 winters, and never winterized it (it is in a protected spot, against a brick wall). Then, this winter we had a very mild period in January when everything started budding out, but got a big surprise when things went back to normal freezing temps in February. All of my six roses suffered, though all have since shown tiny new growths way at the bottom -- except Abbaye de Cluny. At least so far! I am looking for another apricot colored, very floriferous rose with a more classic HT shape to the bloom -- I bought this before I realized I didn't like the cupped form (and that it wouldn't do well in our damp summers).
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The rose pictured (which can be seen at http://www.ptryn.com/blog/images/082904-myst.jpg if the photo happens not to load) has me wondering about its identity. I planted it before an illness, forgot it, rediscovered it this season, and have begun to wonder if it might be Souvenir de la Malmaison (a very pretty house near Paris whose chatelaine I quite admire).
But not even a county fair vendor could describe its fragrance as "strong"; at best and by poking my schnozz fully into a blossom, there is a FAINT tea fragrance. It has more than 60 petals (yes, I took several apart and counted'em) and has vicious thorns. Its habit seems to be more sprawling than upright, which gives me pause, too. But it does not appear to be a climber.
I would be especially interested in any comments about foliage, stems, and growth habit. Many thanks.
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#1 of 2 posted
25 FEB 06 by
Anonymous-797
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this rose cannot be Souvenir de la Malmaison for four reasons. The first is that it is highly fragrant. Second, the thorns are not that vicious as you described. Third the blooms are flat when opened which yours does not look it. Fourth, the shrub form is definately not sprawling. It is a very compact shrub at most three by three. Wish I knew what you have, but it is not Souvenir.
Katy
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#2 of 2 posted
27 FEB 06 by
Wendy C
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I must concur. Those blooms aren't from Souvenir de la Malmaison. I grow this one and it is nearly thornless and fairly well behaved as old garden roses go. The foliage is what I would call a matte green, not glossy. And you don't have stick your nose into it to smell it, walking by is enough.
I wish I could help ID your rose, but I don't know what that lovely rose is.
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