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The list of plants on the website seems significantly shorter than here on HMF, seems misleading. Hoped to get Looking for Love and a few other plants, because they're listed here, but none of them are on the actual website. What is going on?
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Helpmefind is run by a pitifully small handful of volunteers (I'm not one of them, partly because I type with two fingers), and they don't have time to keep each nursery's listing updated - that should be for the nursery to do. Perhaps you could suggest to the nursery that they update their hmf list.
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#2 of 8 posted
1 SEP by
jedmar
You need to contact them to check availability. The HMF listing was based on their full catalogue. Some might have been discarded. The website only has a selection of their roses.
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Thanks for your message. We will work on that. Actually they are still, more or less, in our garden, but lot's of things changed during the last few years. We will work on updating HMF and we will work on updating our webiste.
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At least De Bierkreek list their roses on helpmefind. Many big nurseries don't.
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#5 of 8 posted
1 SEP by
Eirose
Thank you (and everyone) for your reply. The difference between 3000 and ~400 plants just seemed odd, but now I understand that the reason is the manner the HMF catalogue accumulates over the years. I apologise if I sounded as if it was intentional for marketing purposes, now I see that it is not.
I will contact the nursery directly and inquire about the plants I need. At least they have several Kenny roses, which is rare outside NZ!
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#6 of 8 posted
1 SEP by
jedmar
HelpMeFind has always been about providing a "tool" for the gardening community, it was never about providing a "service". The first several years (quite a few actually), before there were any of the absolutely incredible volunteers involved, the founders built the site and maintained its content themselves.
HelpMeFind is all custom software which provides for the greatest flexibility in implementing features optimized for easy of use and convenience. HMF is old enough to have originally concentrated on developing a website for non-computer savvy users. The internet and computer use have come a long way since then and HMF has adjusted.
It is understandable some of HMF's features have been more difficult and time consuming to design and implement. One such area is the automated maintenance of any listing's plant list by uploading a simple list of plant names. The software goes to great lengths to simplify the process. Issues like multiple plants sharing the same name, common misspellings, non-standard abbreviations, etc. are are highlighted and very easily resolved. The process is divided into several steps with well documented pop up help available on each. Information from prior uploads is saved so one does not have to repeat the matching process each season. Unfortunately, the very limited use of this feature has never justified its development time and cost, we've always been disappointed by that. We have planned for some time to write an in depth article demonstrating its use - maybe the blame lies with us.
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I was including Admin amongst the volunteers, since all that work has no financial reward.
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Looking for Love (Kenpopeye) won a Gold Medal at the 2019/20 Amateur Rose Breeders Trials. Bred from Scrivjean and Eyes for You, has been introduced in Ireland.
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#1 of 2 posted
23 JUL 23 by
Eirose
Dear Sir, could you advise where to buy Looking for Love and Eye Popping in Ireland? So far, no luck.
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#2 of 2 posted
24 JUL 23 by
jedmar
Have you tried Johnstowne and Boyne Garden centres?
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23 JUL 23 by
Eirose
Dear Sir, how can I buy your roses here in Ireland?
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8 AUG 22 by
Eirose
From the website:
We have now closed the nursery and a 104-year era has come to an end.
(see letter below)
We would like to take this opportunity to thank all our loyal customers for these fantastic years that you have given us,
After all, it is you who have made it possible for us to last so long!
However, the company as such will not be completely liquidated, but will live on
but with a different focus, lectures on roses and clematis, we will continue with.
Please email if there is interest: info@cedergrens.com
We would like to conclude with the words: Many thanks to all customers, suppliers and other partners below
all these 104 years that we have existed!
Mary and Christ
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Best wishes to you all. Thank you for the update.
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