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Mediterranean climate, (zone 9) how tall can this plant grow? I'm would prefer to train it more vertically, would that work? or it tend to grow horizontally?
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Wonder how this compares to Munstead wood, they look pretty simmilar, munstead wood performed pretty badly in my zone 10b medditeranian climate
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did you by any chance planted it? I'm also mediterrinian climate
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They're very different plants and very different tone of red. Unfortunately, if you live in a rainy area, Rouge Royale's blooms collect water and then rot. If you don't, its not a problem.
I prefer 'Allegorie', but I know some really love 'Munstead Wood' for the blooms alone. I prefer to avoid Austin roses. They often come with a price too annoying to deal with. Often size, water requirements, dropping, slow rebloom and other issues I'm just not willing to deal with anymore. I know MW is on the better side of these problems, but I have heard it can mildew. You may also like 'Ebb Tide' or 'Twilight Zone', if youre into the more purple aspect of 'Munstead Wood'.
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The color depth seems to be true even in hot weather. I would call it mixed egg yolk colors. After a few days, they age to peach, then pastel peach. Honestly, not too bad of a color shift.
There does seem to be some early flop. As long as it doesn't get massive and there is some lift, it will be acceptable. Health seems fine. Fragrance is in tact. Form is nice, and blooms do look romantic.
So, I think the success of this one will be determined by its mature size and whether or not it drags too much into the ground.
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How does this rose handle hot climate? (central Italy)
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I couldn't tell you. I live in the Pacific Northwest.
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This rose is only 3 years old? amazing! I was always thought by people that it needed quite some time to grow
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#1 of 9 posted
4 JUN 21 by
BelénL
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Yes! I think it likes a lot the place where is settled. :)
I hard pruned it these last two february, leaving only the main branches, guiding them horizontally.
Also I quilt the base with bark chippings in winter and fertilize it with earthworm humus in late winter, after pruning it.
It is an amazing rose!
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#2 of 9 posted
4 JUN 21 by
 Jay-Jay
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And it seems to like Your Climate. Is Your soil mostly clay?
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#3 of 9 posted
4 JUN 21 by
BelénL
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Yes, it is pure clay.
Thanks for your message!
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#4 of 9 posted
4 JUN 21 by
Jay-Jay
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A lot of HT roses seem to like clay with mulch and (natural) fertilizer.
The best performing High Teas and climbers I saw in the past on sea clay... or Löss.
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#5 of 9 posted
4 JUN 21 by
BelénL
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Many thanks for your reply @Jay-Jay
I know, thanks to a gardener from Madrid that is very active posting in her blog, that for her experience, many roses from Dave Austin's grow much more in a mediterranean climate than in UK, and here the max height is higher than what is described in Dave Austin's web.
Maybe the sun, maybe the soil, you know, sometimes you don't really know! ;)
I am super newbie with roses... in fact, Pierre de Ronsard is my first rose and the one who has started my interest in roses.
Just a month ago I have acquired a Lady Banks Lutea Plena, a Purple Skyliner, a Perennial Blue and a Madame Alfred Carriere. All Climbers / Ramblers!
So I hope being contributing more in the future and have my interest in roses and gardening growing... as they are...
Very happy to share knowledge with you.
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#6 of 9 posted
4 JUN 21 by
Jay-Jay
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As You might notice at the photo's of Mme Alfred Carrière... I'm a big fan of her, the rose I mean.
Started to flower yesterday in our garden. It can become huge and the scent contains a hint of elderflower.
Nice to make some refreshing lemonade, or tea with the flowers.
When I make elderflower lemonade (some call it beer, because of a hint of alcohol and the fizz), I often add some roses like Mme A. C., Rose de Resht or a heavy scented rose like Étoile de Hollande Cl. or Nachtfalter.
Please feel free to contribute to HMF! Most appreciated.
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#9 of 9 posted
5 JUN 21 by
BelénL
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Really? you do lemonade with flowers? Sounds Delicious! Definitely, I have a lot to learn!
Thanks again for your warm welcome
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#7 of 9 posted
5 JUN 21 by
jedmar
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Not only in Spain, but most Austin's grow to 2m or more even in Switzerland. I am inclined to think that the 3-5' mentions on the David Austin site is for commercial reasons - people with small gardens would not buy large, tall roses.
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#10 of 9 posted
5 JUN 21 by
BelénL
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Oh! that's interesting, thanks for sharing. I think I am going to be really cautious in the future with new acquisitions :)
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