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This rose is only 3 years old? amazing! I was always thought by people that it needed quite some time to grow
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#1 of 9 posted
4 JUN 21 by
BelénL
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Yes! I think it likes a lot the place where is settled. :)
I hard pruned it these last two february, leaving only the main branches, guiding them horizontally.
Also I quilt the base with bark chippings in winter and fertilize it with earthworm humus in late winter, after pruning it.
It is an amazing rose!
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#2 of 9 posted
4 JUN 21 by
 Jay-Jay
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And it seems to like Your Climate. Is Your soil mostly clay?
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#3 of 9 posted
4 JUN 21 by
BelénL
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Yes, it is pure clay.
Thanks for your message!
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#4 of 9 posted
4 JUN 21 by
Jay-Jay
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A lot of HT roses seem to like clay with mulch and (natural) fertilizer.
The best performing High Teas and climbers I saw in the past on sea clay... or Löss.
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#5 of 9 posted
4 JUN 21 by
BelénL
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Many thanks for your reply @Jay-Jay
I know, thanks to a gardener from Madrid that is very active posting in her blog, that for her experience, many roses from Dave Austin's grow much more in a mediterranean climate than in UK, and here the max height is higher than what is described in Dave Austin's web.
Maybe the sun, maybe the soil, you know, sometimes you don't really know! ;)
I am super newbie with roses... in fact, Pierre de Ronsard is my first rose and the one who has started my interest in roses.
Just a month ago I have acquired a Lady Banks Lutea Plena, a Purple Skyliner, a Perennial Blue and a Madame Alfred Carriere. All Climbers / Ramblers!
So I hope being contributing more in the future and have my interest in roses and gardening growing... as they are...
Very happy to share knowledge with you.
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#6 of 9 posted
4 JUN 21 by
Jay-Jay
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As You might notice at the photo's of Mme Alfred Carrière... I'm a big fan of her, the rose I mean.
Started to flower yesterday in our garden. It can become huge and the scent contains a hint of elderflower.
Nice to make some refreshing lemonade, or tea with the flowers.
When I make elderflower lemonade (some call it beer, because of a hint of alcohol and the fizz), I often add some roses like Mme A. C., Rose de Resht or a heavy scented rose like Étoile de Hollande Cl. or Nachtfalter.
Please feel free to contribute to HMF! Most appreciated.
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#9 of 9 posted
5 JUN 21 by
BelénL
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Really? you do lemonade with flowers? Sounds Delicious! Definitely, I have a lot to learn!
Thanks again for your warm welcome
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#7 of 9 posted
5 JUN 21 by
jedmar
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Not only in Spain, but most Austin's grow to 2m or more even in Switzerland. I am inclined to think that the 3-5' mentions on the David Austin site is for commercial reasons - people with small gardens would not buy large, tall roses.
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#10 of 9 posted
5 JUN 21 by
BelénL
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Oh! that's interesting, thanks for sharing. I think I am going to be really cautious in the future with new acquisitions :)
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I was convinced that this rose had a rich red color, today mine bloomed for the first time and it's pink. Anybody has any idea why? could be the cold temperature?
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The color looks about right for Gertrude Jekyll. What is the growth habit? 'Othello' is known for its' many branched, very thorny growth habit, which I, BTW, found very attractive. GJ, OTOH, grows straight upward like a gigantic hybrid tea. If your bush doesn't have large and numerous thorns it is not 'Othello'. The color of 'Othello" was for me a dark purplish red.
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28 MAY 21 by
smashzen
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Yes, it does have a lot of thorns, growing habits are a bit weird because this spring was the coldest in over 60 years. I live in central italy, so I placed the rose on a sort of "partial shade" in order to not fry the flower during peeks hours. I'm guessing the color is this pale because it has been abnormaly cold and rainy in the las month, but yeah, I expected too a purplish/crimson red.
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I think 'Othello' inherits some genetics from the China roses, so maybe it needs sunshine to deepen the color. First flowers of newly planted bushes are often a little odd.
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For those of you who has the climbing version, what's the average maximum heigh? do you thing I could cover a pergola?
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#1 of 7 posted
21 NOV 20 by
Jay-Jay
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Is there a climbing version? The Lady her-selves isn't that vigorous, to be able to cover a pergola in my opinion/experience.
Some other Austins are. Both suitable as a shrub and as respectable climbers.
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#2 of 7 posted
21 NOV 20 by
smashzen
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yep, it is sold only in warmer countries (I guess is the regular LadyOS that performs as a small climber in a warmer climate), anyway the DA website states her as a "small climber" with a 250cm height, just trying to figure out from personal experience if the average heigh is approximately the same as DA website.
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Here in England.. approx zone 8..it's grown as either a medium shrub about 5 feet or very large shrub to 10-12 feet, especially against a wall or trellis.. according to conditions, and requirements.... the structure takes the rose upwards..
Because of its rather stiff nature, upright growth which can be fan trained, I would doubt its suitability for a pergola, except against the upright posts.. if I wanted a rose for across the top of a pergola, I'd want one that hangs its blooms somewhat downwards... LoS has outward or upward facing blooms mostly..
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#4 of 7 posted
22 NOV 20 by
Jay-Jay
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Marlorena,
Abraham Darby is very apt to cover a pergola, with its neighing heads and long flexible canes. Flowered repeatedly and abundantly the last 3 years from 1/2 April till the frosts kick(ed) in.
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..it has a good scent too doesn't it Jay-Jay?.. I've only sniffed it once and I thought it was nice... good to know that information.. I'm up to my neck in roses right now, but it's one I keep meaning to try... not easy to find here these days.. Abraham Darby that is..
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#6 of 7 posted
22 NOV 20 by
Jay-Jay
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It has a very good scent. Strong rose/citrus. Harmonious.
We wrote about Abraham Darby earlier Marlorena. When not sold in Britain... it's relatively easy to propagate from cuttings or by oculation/bud-grafting on a rootstock.
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There is no climbing version - they are the same exact rose, only listed as a "climber" or a "shrub" and completely dependent on pruning/training, growing region etc.
She is vigorous though...
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This poor rose, firs of all destroyed by a deer who rubbed his horns on it, it managed to regrow back with an astonishing vigor even though the rootstock managed to take take advantage of the situation and became very vigorous as well (I had to cut everything).
This May though (very rainy) it had a serious problem of blackspot (probably due to the deer situation who weakened the rose), I kept spraying with copper and with strong systemic fungicide (I only use them in emergencies) and still all summer long had a serious blackspot and downy mildew problem.
Didn't re-bloomed (due to the fungus) and lost all the leaves, now (29 November) it managed to pup few last flower buds.
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