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16 NOV 16 by
JM3
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This is no longer for sale in the US, buy I'm willing to pay for a cutting. Does it perform reasonably on its own roots?
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Sometimes sold on Etsy for way overprice.
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3 DEC 23 by
 Lee H.
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I’m beginning to believe that one can make a tidy side hustle with discontinued Austin roses. Same story with Jude the Obscure.
It’s only overpriced if you can’t find willing buyers…
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They seem to be quite the status symbol in some quarters. I wonder if the DA company will not live to regret its' aggressive culling policy.
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lol, I hope you live long enough to see that! They have been culling better roses for poorer roses since their early days, sometimes just to replace a pink rose on the market without patent protection with one that did get patented.
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Ding ding ding. Watch what Star does now that the KO patents will start to wane.
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just for the record and a bit off-topic, can you recommend good older DA cultivars that are worth to grow?
I kinda like their older ones anyway, Summer Song was quite new but stopped - one of my favourites still.
i really don't have a problem with it as long as it's treated like a HT or floribunda, harder pruning etc
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I'm not a DA expert.
For health and abundance, Jude the Obscure is amazing. But she is a BIG plant.
For size and repeat, Jubilee Celebration. Big blooms on normal-size plant, in a nice color.
For classic look, small stature, and health: Geoff Hamilton. But it has low summer repeat. Large Spring/summer flushes, but it is not much for summer bloom.
Most DA are kinda garbo here, because they're big blooms on big plants, prone to being drug into the ground by their own devices + rain.
A good non-DA alternative is Distant Drums, which is bred from a DA. Prairie Sunrise has DA type blooms on a floribunda plant. Some newer alternatives. I am currently testing out the French versions of DA. One called Allegorie and another called Esprit de Paris. I am hoping they are MUCH smaller plants, but with good repeat.
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Oh thanks, i'm definitely gonna check them out! :)
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In the USA, we have found the DA cultivars to be quite climate specific. If you could give us some idea of what your particular climate in Hungary is like, we might have some ideas. That said, you probably could not go wrong with the now venerable 'Mary Rose', not maybe the most dramatic of roses, but among the most dependable. 'Fair Bianca', remember her, is a charming rose on a weak plant. I was fond of 'Symphony', now I believe being called 'Allux Symphony' and 'English Garden', both having modest growth habit, strong stems and good rapid bloom of large, flat many petalled flowers. AS is a nice soft yellow color while EG has a more goldy bronze color and grows about a foot taller than AS.
I think 'Evelyn' is one of the most beautiful of all roses, but is very much a desert rose, which will flourish wherever SDLM can be grown.
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Thank you for the input! Well we're mostly zone7, colder winters than most of the UK (although this winter was mild again, the lowest in my garden was 14F and for a few days only) and hotter summers with drought sometimes with highs between cc 80-107F. Roses Like the weather because of the sun and it's arid, but better to water them weekly if no sufficient rain for a while.
(Austins are very popular here although i never really liked them apart from some personal favourite like Abraham Darby, Othello, i also have the Pilgrim, Judi Dench and Summer Song - the latter 2 are very good performers through the whole summer)
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19 SEP 21 by
JM3
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I see only one seller listed, and it is in Russia. Does anyone know of a means of purchasing this rose in the United States?
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'Heritage' is not a very satisfactory garden plant, being prone to mildew and the blooms shatter in the slightest breeze, but it seems to have been very productive in breeding.
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10 MAY 17 by
JM3
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I can't quite understand why this variety isn't more popular. It may well be my all time favorite scent of any rose, a very strong and distinct, almost 50/50 blend of floral green tea and lemon zest.
The color range may be more subjective but I loved it. Blooms start from orange buds and spend several days in a light metallic coppery range before fading through gold to cream. Especially striking in dim light.
My own root plant bloomed well from June through the start of August, before extreme heat shut it down. It's now budding well, already 3.5ft x 3ft in the start of its second year, and looks extremely promising.
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14 JAN 17 by
JM3
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Very useful comments, thanks!
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