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Known in South Africa as Great Gatsby. Does well in full sun as well as semi-shade.
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They certainly look the same. Do you have a reference which links them? We have
<2020. Great Gatsby DELludramel
<2021. Rally des Gazelles DELtoffee
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#2 of 4 posted
23 JUN by
Liezel
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Hi Patricia!
Ludwig's roses lists Great Gatsby as DELtoffee in their 2024 printed catalogue
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Thanks Liezel, (and especially for the photo). Despite Ludwig calling the ‘Great Gatsby’ a hybrid tea, and Delbard calling ‘Rallye des Gazelles’ a floribunda, I have merged the pages.
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22 AUG by
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I have it and it’s definitely an HT, not a floribunda.
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Based on Ludwig's catalogue description, it appears that this rose is likely a cross between cherry garland and Nahema.
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28 NOV 22 by
Liezel
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I do not think this is Sophie Rochas. I grow Sophie Rochas and it is a soft pink with serrated edges. The colour and shape does not match.
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'Remember Me' and 'Fordyce' may be separate roses, but the South African breeder/introducer has used the same code, LUDwisutic, for both roses.
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24 DEC 20 by
Liezel
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Hi Patricia. They are definitely separate roses although I know that Ludwig frequently uses the parents of his roses in the breeder's code. In this case I believe them to be Winter Sun and Arctic Ice. I think that both of them may possibly have the same parentage and a mix up might have occurred there.
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I would love to separate them, but that one code stops me. I see you are in South Africa - can you check it out with Ludwig?
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24 DEC 20 by
Liezel
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Dear Patricia
I have emailed Ludwig. Herewith his reply:
"Thanks for being so observant.
They were originally wisutic1, wisutic3, wisutic2,wisutic4 (Winter Sun x Arctic Ice) Remember Me LUDwisutic, La Fleurette LUDwiarc and let’s make FORDYCE LUDparkrun.
We will fix our labels now and for next catalogue."
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Thank you so much Liezel - that was quick and efficient. I have separated the roses and added the same parentage for all three roses.
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