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Dear HMF,
AM038 (Hradec Králové Honourable Mention) is actually the variety Meipapey available only in North America under the trademark BALL GOWN™
Best regards Matthias
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#1 of 1 posted
yesterday by
jedmar
Listings merged, thank you!
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Should be Meiclicel : meilland.com/en/catalogue/purple-perfumella-meiclicel-meilland-jardin-parfum/
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#1 of 7 posted
21 MAR by
jedmar
It was at Monza as Medicellie. See: www.airosa.it/concorso/2005/concorso2005.htm
Also: www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/rose-meicellie.html
The note for Meiclicel says: Meilland sells MEIclicel as 'Greffe de Vie' as a garden rose, and 'Purple Perfumella' when a cut rose.
Has Meilland changed the varietal name from 2005 to 2008?
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#2 of 7 posted
21 MAR by
Ericchn
Maybe. I shall try contacting Meilland for clarification.
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#3 of 7 posted
21 MAR by
jedmar
Can you please also ask about 'Belles Rives'? See this info from 2017:
parfumflowercompany.com/insights/name-change-rose-greffe-de-vie-belles-rives/
We had 'Belles Rives' as a name for MEIzolnil. According to this, it is 'Greffe de Vie' (MEIclicel?)
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#4 of 7 posted
21 MAR by
Ericchn
I know about this. The trade mark Belles Rives is used both for Meizolnil (for garden) and for Meiclicel (for cut flowers). Similar to the case of Jeanne Moreau, which is used for Meidiaphaz for the garden and Meicalanq for cut flowers.
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#5 of 7 posted
21 MAR by
jedmar
Thank you for the clarification!
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Hi all,
Meicellie is not a varietal name of any Meilland variety. It might be (again) a mistake of a rose trial. Maybe Monza as it is the only reference to this :
www.airosa.it/concorso/2005/concorso2005.htm
For the other website as reference, it is an amateur photographer that might have taken the name in Monza. See all other pictures, he was in Italy at that time.
www.dreamstime.com/xiaoma-latest-stock-photos?pg=2
The PBR has always be only Meiclicel for this variety.
About trademarks :
GREFFE DE VIE (Grafting life) was a charity operation in France done by MEILLAND RICHARDIER with the family of Gregory Lemarchal which died of cystic fibrosis at 23 years old in April 2007.
As the operation stopped, the variety was slowly taken down from production.
But a second life in Kenya as a cut flower came to be, and they choose the trademark Purple PERFUMELLA®.
After this, in 2018, we were developing the concept of Bal Meilland with the 5* hotel Belles Rives in Antibes, France and choosing Meizolnil to be named BELLES RIVES®, we decided to rename also Meiclicel BELLES RIVES®, as the Bal Meilland was mostly an event of cut flower presentation.
yesicannes.com/fr/bal-meilland-belles-rives-la-vie-en-roses-59335
Hope it is clear Matthias
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#7 of 7 posted
25 MAR by
jedmar
Thank you for the clarification. Listings merged.
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Hi HMF,
VIN-819 is the code for International Rose Trials of the variety VLR001 trademark Chinook Sunrise which is already an entry of HMF.
www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.83058
Cheers
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#1 of 1 posted
25 MAR by
jedmar
Listings merged, thank you!
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Dear HMF,
AM668 is now AUDREY FLEUROT® Meicatess
So far, only available in Europe ;)
Matthias
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#1 of 15 posted
6 OCT 22 by
jedmar
Thank you, Matthias!
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Hoping it makes its way to America. Beautiful rose!
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This is now available in the USA from Menagerie Farm & Flower in the USA as Loves Me, Loves Me Not™.
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Thanks for letting me know
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Taysdragon, do you have a label please, or website that links MEIcatess with ‘Loves Me, Loves Me Not’. Thanks.
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#6 of 15 posted
10 JAN 24 by
jedmar
Same photo as on Meilland's website
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Aha - thanks Jedmar.
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hello HMF,
Using the same picture doesn't mean it is the same variety. Couple of example :
1) A close up picture of Baipeace can be use for Baipeacesar (climbing mutation, but flower is similare)
2) Another was the mistake by Barni of using the picture of ARTHUR RIMBAUD® Meihylvol for their variety 'Serenata' (no varietal name).
But I confirm that Meicatess is now sold in US by Menagerie Farm & Flower under the trademark 'Loves Me, Loves Me Not™'
Matthias
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#9 of 15 posted
10 JAN 24 by
jedmar
Thank you for the confirmation, Matthias!
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Thank you for confirming this Matthias!
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Thank you very much, Matthias!
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'Meicatess' is listed in the details section on Menagerie Farm & Flower Loves Me, Loves Me Not™ page. I should have included that information earlier. Sorry about that. For some reason, HMF will not allow me to add a direct link to that webpage.
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Thanks TaysDragon. I hadn’t opened the ‘details’ section- should have looked harder.
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#14 of 15 posted
12 JAN 24 by
Ericchn
The link should begin directly with www in order to be seen.
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#15 of 15 posted
4 FEB by
Benaminh
New for my region in 2024. Label from local nursery in Northern California.
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