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HubertG 
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Does anyone, eg in New Zealand, have a hip photo of this rose? I'd like one for a booklet on Mystery Teas in Aus. Thanks,
Margaret
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#1 of 7 posted
13 OCT by
HubertG
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A bit too late I'm afraid, but I notice a hip peeking out from behind the bloom in the photo here (id340253, 15 Feb 20).
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Thank you, yes, that's the photo I ended up using. A couple of the Tea ladies keep an eye on the plant at Araluen, and it hasn't cooperated. "Stiff Lady Roberts" must set very few hips, and if the one in the photo is representative, they're much smaller than the big lobulated ones produced fairly often by Anna Olivier/Lady Roberts. The Tea ladies say its growth pattern is different, too.
Overall SLR is unlikely to be a sport of Anna Olivier, and may well be Souvenir of Stella Gray, as you suggested.
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#3 of 7 posted
14 OCT by
HubertG
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Margaret, this winter I ordered a plant of 'Lady Roberts' from Ross' actually hoping it would really be "Stiff Lady Roberts" as I had read that's what someone else had received from them. It's too early to tell yet for sure, but it's looking encouraging as the plant was quite small and twiggy, and the new growth has been quite reddish, and the leaf shape more like "Stiff Lady Roberts" than 'Lady Roberts'.
If it does become apparent that I've received "Stiff Lady Roberts" I'll keep an eye on hip development for you.
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My "Stiff Lady Robert" came from them. I did give them the "Nannup Bridge Lady Roberts" (Anna Olivier) a few years ago but they're not keen on changing labels.
I'll be interested to know how your plant goes. If it sets a hip, would you please post me (and post) a photo of hip and seeds when it's ripe, and try planting the seeds.
Souv. of Stella Gray has no descendants recorded on hmf.
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#5 of 7 posted
14 OCT by
HubertG
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I'll update on my plant and watch out for hips, in fact I'll probably actively pollinate it, and I'll happily post anything that it produces. I also suspect the plant labelled 'Lady Roberts' that I saw at Parramatta Park years ago was probably "Stiff Lady Roberts" and as I intend to return soon to photograph the Gallicas there, I'll check for hips on their 'Lady Roberts' too.
I suspect 'Souvenir of Stella Gray' might not have been very fertile if it was a Tea-Hybrid Tea mix, or if it did readily produce hips it might not have been used in anyone's breeding programme in that period when Teas were going out of style.
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#6 of 7 posted
24 OCT by
HubertG
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Margaret, I recently checked out the bush labelled as 'Lady Roberts' in the Rumsey Rose Garden in Parramatta Park. I remembered it years ago as being low growing, bushy and somewhat sprawling but instead of getting bigger it seems to have gone backwards in growth. It appears to have been cut back hard at some point and there wasn't a lot of new growth. No flowers or hips present. I couldn't tell by the foliage which Lady Roberts it was but I suspect it's "Stiff Lady Roberts".
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#7 of 7 posted
5 days ago by
HubertG
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It's still too early to tell with certainty what exactly I have but the second bud on my plant is distinctly rich yellow splashed and veined with pinky crimson. I'm leaning towards it being "Stiff Lady Roberts".
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My first impressions of 'The Australian Bicentennial Rose' are very favourable. Its flower are large! I planted my bare-root specimen in a pot to see if I liked it before planting it in the ground and in a pot with no special treatment it's pushing out blooms that are easily 13cm/5 inches. They start out a velvety primary red but subtly shift to a more crimson shade. The foliage is dense and nicely shiny with no indications of disease so far, and a nice shade of green that complements the colour of the flowers. The fragrance is terrific too being a strong sophisticated blend of sweet damask and sharper tea scent. The stems are long enough for a good display in a vase too, in fact I think its size, perfume and boldness make it a great cut flower for the house. I'm anticipating even larger flowers from it after I plant it in the ground. I like it very much so far.
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ugh – i'm so frustrated. i loved the orange blossoms on vavoom, but this rose is getting the shovel. it is consistently deformed with teeny-tiny leaves with lots of disease. last summer it never got taller than about 18" tall, and almost no roses... i don't remember the vavoom being like this when we bought it (in pasadena). but now that we dug it up and moved it up the coast (and only a couple of miles from the ocean), it's never done well – maybe the move was too traumatic? but all the others (mostly english roses) have done fine. we'll have to find something else to replace it, but it's hard to find that orange. oh, well. (sad face...)
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#1 of 2 posted
16 APR 18 by
HubertG
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Maybe consider Lady Emma Hamilton although it's not quite the same orange. I haven't grown it, but it looks very nice.
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Harold McMillan might work. Its an easier to grow, typical floribunda.
I prefer 'Caribbean'. It doesn't go quite into the "hot" colors, but the fade doesn't have garish red in it like most of the orange roses do. Also, its a consistent bloomer over the summer, where many large-flowered roses are not once it heats up.
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