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Does anybody know if this rose is going to be released in Europe?? Or if there is any European company associated wit J&P...
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#1 of 12 posted
26 JUL 11 by
HonzaPM
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Please, we need this rose in Europe. Help us. :)))
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Totally agree - I am eagerly waiting for this White Hybrid Tea to make it here to Europe too. It is getting good reviews. I will ask Hans van Tage in Holland, Rozenkwekerij de Bierkreek to see if he can get permission to import it from Jackson and Perkins. Very strange that a rose with this name has taken so long to get here :-) - Many Jackson and Perkins roses are rarer here in Europe than - elephants perfoming - Le Spectre de la Rose.
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#3 of 12 posted
21 APR 12 by
HonzaPM
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Niels, thank you for this information. Let´s stay in touch in case of any news you got.
I keep rose Annapurna in my garden, it may be simmilar to Pope. It´s fragrance is fantastic.
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I am sure we can get a nursery to import it if - Jackson and Perkins will allow it to be sold in Europe. It is rare to see a white rose -so pure and white since most white roses get spots due to rain or even just from the humidity that dew gives. And most say it has a very good fragrance too :-) So let us hope we can get it here by budding time in July/August - and then we needs to wait a year for the plants.
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Does anyone know if this has changed? I'm in the Netherlands and haven't found it online here or in Germany
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#6 of 12 posted
24 MAY 18 by
HonzaPM
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Hi there, yes, this rose is few seasons already available in Europe. In Czech Republic it is sold by Starkl. They also have nurseries in Austria and other countries.
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#7 of 12 posted
24 MAY 18 by
HonzaPM
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Here is the direct link.
https://eshop.starkl.at/edelrose-papst-johannes-paul-ii-1-stk/
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Oh, thank you very much! Perhaps HMF can add Papst Johannes Paul II to the names?
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#9 of 12 posted
24 MAY 18 by
 Jay-Jay
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Bij mij groeit ie in de tuin. En in Vilebranch Bramble.
It's growing in my garden. And in V.B. too.
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Oh, that's wonderful. What is Villebranch Bramble? (Google doesn't give anything) Do you by any chance remember where you bought it? The link above from HonzaPM is in Austria, with branches in Eastern Europe, but not delivering in the Netherlands.
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#11 of 12 posted
24 MAY 18 by
Jay-Jay
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This is: http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=3.22186
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Oh, it's a person :-) Thank you
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I think they recently have changed the name and "passed" it as a new rose called Òminum Cultural.
The pic in their catalog was the same but they changed the name.
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#1 of 2 posted
24 FEB 15 by
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#2 of 2 posted
25 FEB 15 by
Hei_hei
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I contacted Rosas Dot. They said Òmnium Cultural is a sport of Agrupació Mútua and that they look a lot alike, because of technical problems of web design they decided to use the same picture.
I would like to see both of them side by side
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Rose Listing Omission
Rosa Dot
Hi!
I've found Nácar and Miami platja in here but both are sports of the original Rosa Dot. Rosa Dot is exactly as Miami platja except this last one has white speckles/short stripes. I'll take pictures and upload them.
Thanks for everything. This site is amazing.
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#1 of 2 posted
11 MAY 11 by
jedmar
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Thank you for your comments! We had 'Rose Dot' listed and have added 'Rosa Dot' as synonym, as well as the links to the sports.
The attribution of the Dot roses to various members of the Dot family may need improvement.
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#2 of 2 posted
24 FEB 15 by
Hei_hei
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I just contacted roses Dot. They said they used the same picture because they are very similar and other website problems but that Òmnium Cultural is a sport of Agrupació Mútua not the same rose.
We can include the new rose then.
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22 JUL 08 by
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I add a reference from "Rosas de España" writen by Friera:
"Tristeza HT (C.Camprubí Nadal, 1953)
Charles P. Kilham x Betti Uprichard
Arbusto de mediana vigorosidad, de vegetación algo divergente, muy florífero, con abundante follaje verde franco. Los tallos sostienen rígidamente, con sus pedúnculos, a las flores que son de tamaño mediano y de fina forma imbricada. Su color es de un extraordinario tono lila, más oscuro en el fondo del pétalo y más difuminado en su extremidad. Es notable por marcar una etapa en el colorido de los rosales debido a su tono extraño y original. Resistente a las enfermedades"
I can't translate literally, but I can say ( I 'm from Barcelona) that Camprubí family hasn't longer a nursery since the end of the 70's. Almost all the roses bred by Camprubí are lost forever.
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#1 of 4 posted
22 JUL 08 by
jedmar
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Thank you for the Reference. My Spanish is just enough to get the gist of the text. A number of Camprubi Nadal's roses have survived thanks to Prof Fineschi in Italy.
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#2 of 4 posted
27 FEB 12 by
Hei_hei
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I do can translate it... ;)
"Medium robustness bush, with somewhat divergent growth, very floriferous, with abundant simple green foliage. The stems support rigidly, with their peduncles, the flowers which are of medium size and have a fine imbricated shape. Their color is an extraordinary lilac ("lila" can translate for purple, violet, lilac, mauve... if it is taken in its generic sense would be purple, more strictly lilac), darker on the petal's deeper end and more softened at its edge. Is it of note for marking a turning point on roses color due to its strange and original shade. Resistent to diseases."
I found on internet this one has been conserved in Australia, at Ruston's.
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Unfortunately the plant list at Ruston's is out of date. I will ask David Ruston, who retired some years ago, whether Tristesse is still there; if it is, we will try to preserve it.
2012 / 2 / 29: Ruston's no longer have it. David says it was a weak grower at Remark (zone 9b). Adieu Tristesse.
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#4 of 4 posted
29 FEB 12 by
Hei_hei
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What a pity...
Well... I'll try to look somewhere else.
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