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The 'Marie Robert' we have been selling at La Roseraie du Désert came from Walter Branchi in Italy incorrectly labelled as 'Comtesse de Galard-Bearn' and later identified as 'Marie Robert'. There is another 'Marie Robert' from L'Hay which is not correct.
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24 NOV 20 by
 jedmar
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Thank you, Becky, we have added this information to our notes, as well as the photos of our false EdM - now 'Marie Robert', Definitely the same as yours!
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Seriez-vous prêt à m'envoyer des boutures de quelques-unes de vos rosiers en France? c'est pour un projet sur lequel je travaille avec un ami pour apporter aux États-Unis des roses qui ne sont pas disponibles là-bas.
merci d'avance
Becky Hook
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Bonjour,
Je pourrais en effet vous envoyer quelques boutures.
Ma santé n'étant pas florissante, je ne suis plus invertie dans ma roseraie depuis quelques années,
Pourriez-vous me préciser ce que vous souhaitez, dans quelles conditions et surtout pour quand ?
Cordialement
S.C. Audibert
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Bonjour
Merci de votre réponse. Ce serait très gentil si vous pouviez nous envoyer quelques boutures pour M. Bagnasco en Californie. Il est président de la California Coastal Rose Society et nous propageons des boutures depuis quelques années pour lui envoyer. Il est interessé par les suivants ;
Alterarosa Fl 2009
Sherwood Fl 1998
Châteaubriand HP 1848
Arpège HT 1979
Cendrillon HT 1951
Jules Verne HT 1999
Misty Blue HT 2010
Orient Express HT 1978
Pierre Cardin HT 2008
Aigle de Meaux Tea 1858
Georges Sand Tea 1845
Hamlet Tea 1912
Pour nous, a partir de maintenant serait tres bien. Nous preferons les boutures avec quelques feuilles, bois semi-dur et entre 25 et 35 cms (a peu pres).
Merci beaucoup pour votre assistance et nous vous souhaitons la bonne santé. Nous couvrirons tous les frais.
Amicalement
Rebecca Hook
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Definitely does not have pure Tea traits. It looks like a mixed Tea of sorts.
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Thank you. I've added more photos.
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Margaret - the details given for this rose were "low growing". That may be misleading as your photo shows a taller rose. What is the minimum and maximum height of this rose please.
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The plants I know are young, hence the erroneous conclusion. From Jane Zammit: "Mine is sort of a typical 2m x 2m x 2m – original at Rookwood had a wider spread & not much height – could have been any number of factors to cause that.
Would suggest it is probably closer to Drawing 3 in Vintage Gardens catalogue than Drawing 2, as it can be a little more open and ‘rangey’ than others."
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Thanks Margaret.
Has anyone considered 'Rhodologue Jules Gravereaux'? That is a medium height rose. What is the colour of the wood, both for "George Whatson" and "William James Wright"?
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Jane commented that the growth of "William James Wright" was similar to that of RJG and of Mrs B R Cant, but doesn't have the colour variability of many of the Teas. "George Whatson" has similarities to RJG and varies considerably in colour, but doesn't have the bicolour tones of RJG.
The wood of my plant of "George Whatson" is green, sometimes brown on one side. I will post more of Jane's photos of both tomorrow.
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I consider this rose to be 'Souv. d'un Ami' which I posted in 2013 on the 'Souv. d'un Ami' page. After growing for several years I have become more convinced. Please compare to the Hermann Baisch lithograph in Nestel's Rosengarten1866
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I consider this rose to be 'Souv. d'un Ami' which I posted in 2013 on the 'Souv. d'un Ami' page. After growing for several years I have become more convinced. Please compare to the Hermann Baisch lithograph in Nestel's Rosengarten1866
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Becky and John - do you have "Bird Children Pink" in your collection?
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To summarise: The rose sold in Aus as Souv. d'un Ami came from NZ and is incorrect, so we don't have a gold standard for comparison with the various candidates on offer.
One is "George Whatson", collected Rookwood, following your suggestion.
Another is "Bird Children Pink", a stable pink sport or reversion of a white Rookwood Tea, "Bird Children". A white sport of Souv d'un Ami, known as both The Queen and Souv de S A Prince, reached Australia.
A third is "Almerta Orchard Pink", which is thought to be the same as the "McClinton Tea", which Vintage Roses suggested might be Souv d'un Ami.
I'm no expert, and shouldn't speculate on which of these - if any - is correct. Early illustrations can mislead, and it's difficult when it's uncertain whether anyone has the true rose to compare foundlings with.
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No, Billy we don't have that, just the G. W. Rookwood.
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This-one looks different from the one on Hovman's photo.
That-one really looks like a Spinosissima-hybrid.
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They are completely different from one another. Ours has double pink flowers that fade to white. The leaves are very small and bright green. There are a lot of spines on it but they are smaller.
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20 DEC 16 by
Jay-Jay
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But I still want to buy it from You for my rose- and Spinosissima-friend!
PS: Did You take a look at the photo's on the Corn Hill's nursery website?
See: http://www.cornhillnursery.com/New%20Retail/Roses/Rosa%20Pimpinellifolia%20Double%20Scotch%20Pink.html
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2 JUL 17 by
Marnix
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Yesterday I believed to see similarities between The Fairy and Double Scotch Light Pink. Today I compared this Rose with The Fairy (and the sports of it), but there are much differences. The leaves and flowers of Double Scotch Light Pink are smaller and the leaves of The Fairy are glossy and the leaves of Double Scotch Light Pink are not glossy.
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