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We have 3 Jacob's Robe roses, and they have beautiful flowers and lots of thorns. My question: how tall are they supposed to grow? Every, and I mean every, other rose in our garden had grown taller than it was supposed to, and these 3 "climbers" can not get over 5 feet. They look pretty on the sides of their trellis, but it would be really nice if they could make it to the top.
This is their 4th year. They have lots of water, sun, good soil and organic rose food in our Vancouver Island Zone 8 garden. I tidy them up in the spring, and deadhead throughout the year.
Any suggestions / advice would be most welcome.
Thank you...Pauline
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Has anyone else had this problem? I want to use Jacob's rose as a climber, and I need it to grow to 10' or so. I live in NW Oregon, and my climate is similar to Pauline's. Pauline, did yours grow better in 2017?
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'The Magician' might be a better bet.
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It is a lot prettier and more dramatic, in person, than Rhapsody in Blue or Night Owl. I think it is a better grower, too. When in bloom, I think it is even more dramatic than Purple Splash, despite its stripes, because the blooms are highly present and pleasing. The plant seems nice, too, with the bristles smelling like Westerland's bristles, which I find kind of unique for a modern mauve rose.
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27 DEC 15 by
styrax
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Home Depo had a few, very nice plants of this. Wished I had saved them. They set hips well too. I think it is worth looking into: http://www.rosebreeders.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55260&sid=b23c5bb6c8367e4459075f9ccb1df7e5
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I already have seedlings from it ^_^ I have "kept" seedlings of Heart n Soul, too.
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Are you growing it as a climber or as a shrub?
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I moved on from it as I have a superior seedling from it. When I had it, I whacked it down to the ground each winter and treated it as a free-standing shrub.
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Thanks, Michael. How big did it get each year treated that way, and did it seem worth the trouble of doing so compared to growing commercially available non-climber alternatives? I find the flower color and form quite attractive in photos, more so than the competitors that I have seen, but I don't have a spot for it as a climber.
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Sorry for the very late response. I don't always see things.
It was worth it. Quite easy to prune it in the winter to very short stems. It was worth it, because it was not only novel and easy, but also because it was more heat tolerant than most roses. I had it in a place where I water less and that proved to be helpful. Something about it -- super thick petals and sand-papery foliage -- seemed helpful. Blue For You shrieks at the very thought of 90F+ weather.
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I think someone must have been a little distracted when they correctly converted the height and width of Orange Freedom from inches to centimeters or vice versa, but didn't notice that 2.25" x 1.25" or 6 cm x 3 cm is actually an exceptionally small rose.
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Definitely distracted that day Mike. Many thanks to you.
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Consistent yearly size, as a grafted plant in the Pacific NW, has been about 4.5' T x 3.5'W. It makes a large everblooming orb. Kind of like Bonica. Way bigger than I expected, but I love the rose, and so do visitors. Its a very happy rose.
Edit: Much taller at advanced maturation.
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Very useful as usual, Michael, especially for me due to our shared climate.
I confess that I am fond of singles anyway, but I think that they are inherently much better vehicles for showing off contrasting eyes than roses with more petals. That holds for this rose versus Bullseye and the Eyeconics, for example, but it also holds for pale eyes, such as in Cocktail, Hoot Owl, Crazy Dottie, and many of the Meidiland roses.
I was very interested in this rose when I was putting in a lot of roses at a previous house several years ago, but I couldn't find a source, and now I am in the same boat at a new house. Does anyone know a U.S source for this rose, preferably own root? It would have to be mail order unless in western OR or WA.
Also, has anyone grown the similar but considerably newer rose For Your Eyes Only, also by Chris Warner?
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Oddly enough, this one can be trained into a climber in our climate! I whack mine back every year to 4". The canes are very pliable.
Portland Rose finder says nada for it locally. Portland Nursery used to carry it, but it seems they're not doing CR roses this year. CR could potentially have it in Lowes or HD this summer, but you never know what will show up. Regans is already done for the year, but they were selling it via CR. Maybe you could call CR and see who online may distribute it.
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Any idea how tall it would get as a climber? How do the flexible canes work as a shrub - just keep piling up on top of one another?
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The canes are super flexible. When I prune it to 4" every January, it reaches to my nose by november. I'm 6'3". That is a mature plant.
It has continuous growing tips, which would lend quite well to training. Just like it's parent, Summer Wine, but not quite as big. One would still have to prune any new shoots trying to grow wide at the base, however. But its not too much work, considering it doesn't need sprayed here.
The only caveat, other than side branches for that idea, I think, is that it has hooked prickles. So no at planting it somewhere near faces and eyes, if one was to train it.
Some Austins are grown like this, as well. I know Graham Thomas is a prime example, but it defoliates from BS here. Macy's Pride, as well.
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Is the roughly 6' that you describe if you take the longest flexible canes and hold them vertical? So 6' as a climber if you pruned it pretty much to the ground before growth starts each year? Or is it an updated height as a shrub, rather than the 4.5' T x 3.5'W that you posted, in which case what width are you seeing now? I very much want to grow this, and I'm trying to figure out where and how. Thanks in advance!
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Same width, but touching the ground as those LONG canes arch.
It really became a beast...
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