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goncmg 
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15 DEC 20 by
goncmg
Stunned to learn and confirm J&P is only offering this in tree form for 2021. It is a very solid rose and off to a good and enthusiastic start with growers and they basically have pulled the plug.
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19 JAN by
Usami
5 years later and they have not! It is available for purchase in J&P's website right this moment.
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It was last year, as well.
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12 APR 23 by
Ritch
Apparently this rose isn't extinct. There's currently a plant, as of 4/11/23, listed in the Coastal California Rose Society auction.
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12 APR 23 by
jedmar
The ruling 'Extinct' of ARS/Modern Roses was usually because a breeder wanted to reuse the name. There are quite a number of cases where the rose in question was found in private or public gardens. Thank you for the notice of the auction of the Coastal California Rose Society. Hopefully, the successful bidder will post photos of 'Lemon Chiffon'.
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30 DEC by
goncmg
Along with Dianne in Idaho we won the CRS auction plant and photos have been posted. She has that plant and I have a plant budded on multi flora from bud wood from the auction plant. This variety has surprised me a bit. It’s not a weak grower, in coastal NE Florida it gets tall, tall and narrow. It’s also rather thorny! The spring bloom is gorgeous (see my photos) but in the heat of summer the blooms are single or close to single! And I own almost all old ARS annuals and reviewing the Proof of Pudding reviews from the mid 1950s (Roses in Review was called P o P for years) those in very warm climates noted that weird trait! That’s how I am certain this is the real variety that I’m growing. I was almost questioning it because I don’t get any damask or old rose fragrance at all. I get little fragrance. Almost none. Blooms are always on single stems long enough to cut. Repeat bloom is fast. It doesn’t blackspot or otherwise have disease more or less than the bunch. It’s a nice rose. A bit nondescript. I prefer 1944’s Mme Chiang Kai Shek as far as mid century yellows go as that variety is a bit more distinctive in my opinion and never blooms as a single 5 petal blossom (I’m not a huge fan of single blooms). I’m always happy to share plant material when I can so let me know this summer if this variety interests you.
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4 FEB 21 by
goncmg
This rose fascinates me. My question is: released in the 1950's, no record of parentage, how is it confirmed to be a Hybrid Perpetual? How did the color come about?
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In the absence of any data, I'd conjecture that this rose is a product of a breeding line that started with HP 'Frau Karl Druschki' and entailed several generations of seedlings of seedlings being crossed with yellow Pernetianas, HTs, and each other such that the only defined classification that any proportionately major ancestor had was the HP designation of the founder of the line (which I'm theorizing was 'Frau Karl Druschki').
Theory #2, which could be valid simultaneously with Theory #1 above, would be that perhaps the manner in which it blooms and/or grows seemed HP-like (or at least not HT-like) to whoever first classified it.
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See my prior comments. WOW NOT A ROSE FOR COASTAL FLORIDA. I have 2 plants this year, one Grade 1 from Regan and one body bag. Both did fine until April here in NE Coastal Florida. Got great performance until heat and humidity set in. Both plants performed the same which is, in a nutshell, great spring blooms yet both have been defoliated and dormant since late June with zero signs of reactivating. They aren’t dying! They just totally shut down. Very disappointed. Just not a heat and humidity variety.
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