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12 OCT 15 by
sam w
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It is, as virtually everyone here has noted, a lovely thing in color and even in scent. But, based on my own experience and a few other comments I've read here, I would recommend that you plant it, say, againt a fence where other plants can hide its lanky, bare legs. In this respect, it's a lot like some of the climbing hybrid teas (although it's not classed as such). It won't work, at least for me, as a pillar rose. I need to move mine to a more appropriate location, though the rose will definitely stay in my garden.
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When I grew it, it did very well against a cedar fence. I pegged the primary basals in a C-shape in both directions. I found this the easiest way to train it and get optimal blooms are both the mid and high levels. A lot of climbers can be done in the classic V or W shapes, or even a VERY wide V-shape, but some like Royal Sunset are not typical and really do prefer alternate ways to train them. This is for back structures. Pillar and arch structures may be different, as I never really used them (I don't like blocking light out with structures).
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25 JAN 14 by
sam w
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I have grown the rose Vintage Gardens sells under this name for about five years and I have never discerned any difference between its bloom and that of RdV. It is at best a slightly more robust selection of RdV.
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Vintage Gardens Book of Roses, 2006. p. 75, the entry for Pius IX describes finding a reversion to this rose on a bush of Reine des Violets. From that it was concluded that "This is the sport parent of Reine des Violettes".
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1 JUN by
 jedmar
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There is a difference in colouring to RdV. Please also see "Reine des Violettes - Helle Variante" which is sold in Germany. Possibly also a reversion to Pius IX, which was propagated as RdV.
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There is a bristly rose sold in Australia as Reine des Violettes, and also turning up in old cemeteries. We guessed it was Pope Pius IX. Photos taken late summer, South Australia, zone 9b. Both roses are in the Blakiston Schoolhouse garden.
If only many roses would sport to thornless forms!
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15 MAY by
sam w
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This may be the first rose I get rid of solely based on its smell. At last I understand people mean when they describe a fragrance as medicinal or like inexpensive scented cold cream. I may not even wait out the season to toss this one.
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28 APR by
sam w
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It's such a harsh yellow when it first opens that I found it hard to place in the garden.
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